Oh yeah, this is a long time coming.
This comic will sometimes contain Strawman argument parodies. We’ve already seen some comments in here, oh yes, people calling me out on oversimplifying the real life issues.
It’s a motherfucking comic, bitches. Deal. Sometimes I will make fun of the far right. And sometimes I will aim my sights on the far left. This way, both sides can hate me. Let them hate me, as long as they fear me.
I did these comics weeks ago, and lo and behold, the universe rolled the dice perfectly. This strip and the next two deal with what I’m calling Obamascare II, The Socialist Boogaloo. Not many people, especially in gun circles, seem to remember 2008. This annoys me to no goddamn end. You can’t learn from history if you don’t even remember it, and goddamnit, this was only 4 years ago. Back in 2008-2009, there was a 9 month period where I couldn’t fucking FIND 9mm ammo for plinking. .357 mag ammo was a unicorn. Prices on AK variants, ALL variants, doubled – and goddamn it, there is no good goddamn reason on earth anyone should ever pay $900 for a fucking WASR-10.
Well, here it is again. I’ve spent the last few years keeping my plinking stores stocked. Not a gigantic stockpile, but about double what I used to keep in the house, just in case something retarded happened again. And that train’s never late! Here it is! OBAMMER’S GUNNA TAKE OUR GUNS! Strap in, folks, the next 9 months are going to be a bumpy ride…
Pmags. $12 Pmags. Except that they’re $40 Pmags now. I wanted to buy a couple, and the price went up *while I was in the website’s shopping cart*. I found them elsewhere for $15.
I bought WAY more than I wanted. I’m gonna sell them to people like the asshole in this comic for $100 a pop in 3 months. And they can kiss my big white ass while paying me. 🙂
See this sht just pisses me off. this is *twice now* that I’ve bounce a fairly solid firearms purchase off an incoming pricing related derpstorm. I waited just a little to long after the first one hoping things might stay low or go a little lower and bam, crazy ass rightwingers hear the world “gun control” in *anyones* mouth and loosr their collective shit like a bunch of packrats on meth. Settle the fuck down Beavis, nobody’s coming for your fucking guns.
Anybody taking bets on whether something will happen, with Biden’s Blue Ribbon Panel? Someone over on DemocraticUnderground pointed out that BRPs are a great way to look like you’re doing something, while kicking the can down the road till the emotions cool down. Meanwhile, I’ve already written my Senator and Representative (the other Senator’s a lame duck, so no point) on Fed issues, and my Governor on state issues.
EVERYTHING would have been alright if it hadn’t been for the ONE retard to fuck it up for the rest… BY NOW everyone should be on the same page that kids and guns don’t mix well… Specially the ones with emotional issues, problem parents, drugs, and the list goes on.
but now off my soap box,
Great comic
I’m a little worried, simply because when you’ve got an incident like one which occurred in Connecticut it extends the time frame where it’s fresh in the publics mind. Most of this stuff has a very small window to pass before some celebutard has a baby and everyone forgets. Something like this however opens that window wider, and god only knows what will climb through.
So far I’ve seen bare bones AR’s, if you can find them, going for $1,200. Ammo is non-existant and 4 hour back ground check waits are a norm at the gun shops in my neck of the woods.
Yesterday when I went shooting at my county run shooting range, I turned onto the road only to be met by a group of 20 protestors slinging insults and vitriol. After I made it through them, further down the road was a County Police/BATF “compliance” checkpoint, checking everyone who went in to make sure we were transporting properly and no one was in violation of our state version of the Assault Weapons Ban.
As much as I don’t subscribe to the kool aid usually, I’m of the standpoint right now that something is going to pass, just how bad will it be for the legal owners will it be?
What the hell communist country do you live in, California?
Close, Peoples Democratic Republic of New York lol
I always got the impression NY wasn’t bad outside NYC. But I haven’t been there since I was a kid. Sorry man.
Yes, it’s inconvenient when people go nuts like this, but it’s also heartening in a way. Thousands more ARs in private hands is a good thing. Also, it sends a pretty strong message to the gun grabbers. People aren’t running out to buy these planning to turn them in if a ban somehow gets rammed through.
I doubt anything will happen long term as a result of this tragedy on a national or even state level. I’m a liberal myself and while I’m strongly in support of automatic assault weapons being restricted to military forces, I’m pretty much okay with all other guns. People flip their wigs when something like this happens because it’s a reminder of how little control any of us have over the chaos and entropy of existence. Throw in the fact that it happened in a quiet New England town and everyone goes overboard.
In my elementary school there were plenty of opportunities to attack large numbers of children without any use of firearms. This young man simply used a gun because it was available and he was familiar with it. Whenever I see a shooting with numbers this high, I always imagine that something would have happened with or without guns, because in the act of reloading there’s that thought of “I haven’t done enough. I need to hurt more people”. I can understand the sort of furious moment where you shoot someone til your gun runs dry, but if you reload and keep going, you’re not able to claim some overwhelming emotion anymore. In that moment, to my mind anyway, you’ve made it clear that you fully intend to do even more harm.
Yeah, you and I are pretty much of one mind on this.
A technical nitpick: “Automatic assault weapon” is an oxymoron. “Assault weapon” is a propaganda phrase that became a legal term-of-art with enactment of the 1994-2004 ban. It basically means “SEMI-automatic (one shot per trigger pull) firearm that looks scary and military, but doesn’t actually work any different than a walnut-stocked Bambi-zapper with a semi-auto action.”
“Automatic assault RIFLE” is a redundancy, because an assault rifle is, by definition, capable of full-auto fire. Those have been heavily regulated in the US, since 10 years before they were invented. Oooh, did FDR have a crystal ball and predict the future? No. In 1934, anything full-auto, or select-fire, was regulated by the National Firearms Act. Which meant that when the Sturmgewehr 44 was invented 10 years later, it dropped right into the regulation bucket.
IF you can find an StG44 that someone’s willing to sell, expect to pay around $30,000 for it. Then, submit the paperwork for 6 months of anal-probing by the BATF. When you pass that, you get to pay $200 tax (if that was in 1934 dollars, it’d be about $20,000), cough up the 30 grand to the seller, and pay some stiff fees to the Class III dealer who’s handling the transfer for you. Same goes for Thompsons, M16s, real AK47s, and anything else automatic. Cheapest I’ve seen was a Smith and Wesson M76 subgun, which is a pretty craptastic gun. For $7,500.00, you too can go through the bureaucracy and own a Vietnam-era way to convert money to noise.
You pretty much summed up my view too. I always wonder, when I see people posting statistics about gun crimes in other countries, what the knife/baseball bat/other close-range weapon crime rates are. Petty criminals, psychopaths, and people who do get overwhelmed by emotion use the weapons available to them.
Meh, it got me to join the NRA in the hopes my $60 will go to lobbyists and be useful, even though I barely know how to fire a gun.
It’s the same reason I’m in the AMA (Amer. M’cycle Assoc) to lobby against stupid shit like ethanol gas and outlawing dirtbikes for kids because they have lead in the batteries.
aw but dont you know those darn kids are gonna suck on the tailpipe of that dirtbike? lol
there has been a constant trend in my area (CA) for the past 14-18 months that i cant find ANY fucking 7.62x54r. i bought this thing as a plinking rifle, and the goddamn hoarders made it so i can’t even take it to the range every other month. so you know what?
FUCK YOU HOARDERS.
hate me now? good, good, let the hate flow through you……
that not to say i am not prepared. just i buy a REASONABLE amount of ammo when i go, i dont clear the store out.
heck most of what you would call “shtf” ammo is actually just reloads. thats right people, i did not interfere with anyone elses ammo purchases while stocking up, i rolled my own. cuz im just that nice.
Wow, you can’t even find spam cans? The price around here has gone up slightly, but people still rock palletloads of the things at gun shows. (Do you have those in CA?)
…Oh, and “around here” is western WA.
We have gun shows in California, but you’ve gotta know where to look. Los Angeles banned them (and from what I heard, a lot of gang members were showing up to buy). The big gun show down here in Southern California moved their show to a suburban city called Glendale, about 10 minutes from downtown LA.
Several times at gun shows here in Ohayo we get the thug lifers looking for dey gats. The dealers can and do, often loudly and very rudely, tell them to get lost. It’s always a good show.
I’m a little confused by your line of reasoning. So it’s OK for someone with enough funds to buy bulk whatever, because that’s their right, unless they’re, what? Black? “Thug Lifers”?
No, it’s ok for anyone to buy anything they want. It’s also ok for anyone to refuse to sell anything to anyone they want. Freedom.
You might look into reloading. I couldn’t afford to bring my Nagant to the range otherwise.
I’m guessing the Soviet Republic of Kalifornia has a ban on purchasing online? I never buy 7.62x54r in person because they always tack on like an extra $30+ to it. Grab it online for $75 for a 440 round spam can plus a few bucks for shipping.
So you’re claiming that people worried about a ban when we have the TV blaring 24/7 about why we need a ban, several politicians (including Democrats who ran on pro-gun platforms) screaming we need to ban things, new gun ban legislation being introduced at the beginning of the year, AND Obama himself calling for a ban are just “assholes” or “paranoid”?
I was enjoying your comic, but now it seems like you’re the asshole.
So you proudly believe everything politicians say/the news says?
If a politician says that they’re introducing anti-gun legislation or supporting it, yes – especially when the party in the White House and in control of the Senate has a long history of being anti-gun.
Do I think the ban will pass? It depends on if the Republicans in the House pussy out or not – and who knows what those odds are. But to be a dick because people are buying before a ban (which HAS been proposed and legislation already is written) can be enacted is just absurd. If you posted this a month ago when people were buying just because Obama got elected, then you’d have a point. But posting it now after everything that’s happened, they have a right to be worried.
Under ANY circumstance, anyone who panic buys multiple firearms is an asshole.
This opinion is explained in the next two strips.
Sorry, but that’s not true. If there is a legitimate reason to be worried that the item will soon be unavailable to purchase ever again, that’s justification to buy now. For example, if Ford said “Due to new government regulation, after this year there will never be another Mustang made again”, people who like Mustangs or want one would be fully justified in getting one before sales are forced to stop. The same applies to guns and any other item for sale.
In your hypothesis, how would you feel about the asshole who walks into the dealership and buys 20 mustangs, thereby depriving 20 other buyers?
This is, by the way, an actual parallel. In 2008, I knew a civilian, non-gun-shop-owner who decided to purchase ten goddamn AKs from a shop because he had the funds and ERMAGERD, OBAMMER’S GUNNA TAEK MA GUNS!
That’s silly. If someone has the funds to purchase something that very likely will increase in value drastically over the next few years, why the hell wouldn’t they?
But it WON’T.
In 2008-2009, a Bushmaster was going for anywhere from $900-$1600.
In 2010, once the panic was over, I bought one for Mel for $700 with optics.
You didn’t answer my question.
I wasn’t asked the question, but my answer is simple. sure it’s ok to buy 20 Mustangs (if Mustangs are no longer made, the price will go up.) The way an open market works, if there is demand for mustangs, mustangs will be produced and sold (people like making money, for serious.) The fault lies with the government, for regulating mustangs away, not the guy who is either trying to make money from a high demand low supply market, or try to get as much of an item he wants as he can before not being able to get them any more.
I tend to agree with you about the Obamascare stuff, but now it really looks like we’re going to have an AWB again, probably with a sunset clause, probably with a grandather clause. The prices changed, not drastically but still perceptibly during the last AWB, but without a sunset clause, I think the prices would change much more over twenty or thirty years under an AWB. Look how much the price of actual full autos have gone up since they stopped being produced for the civilian market.
I’m just saying theres a big difference between, “Ehrmagerd, Obammers cumin to taek mah guns!” and “Shit, Feinstein’s going to introduce an AWB before the public outcry over Newtown has settled down, and they’re aren’t any conservatives in Congress willing to take a stand for gun rights, they might actually do it this time.”
So if the scare blows over, the bonehead panic buyers take a bath. Where’s the problem? While I may not like these idiots much better than you do, neither you nor I have any divine right to buy any particular product at any specific price at any particular time. Free markets can be a little messy, but barring interference by the state, they do tend to correct errors, usually pretty quickly.
Even if the ban does pass, you don’t need to buy ALL the AKs. One gun, or even one gun each of several types, will do just as well if you know how to take care of it.
Just out of curiosity- do things like gun cleaning supplies get hoarded too, or is it just guns and ammo?
Huh. Never thought about it before, but I’ve always been able to get cleaning supplies, holsters, slings, targets, etc. The glut seems to be solely on guns and ammo.
That’s because the crazy fuckers aren’t worried about using their guns (or if they use them, cleaning them).
No, it’s all about having them.
Hell, I expect that many of the guns purchased in Obama Panic 2008 were “buried so the government can’t find them and take them from me”.
Ten years from now, someone will have sold crazy uncle Ralph’s house, and the person who bought it will uncover poorly preserved firearms, because Ralph thought that wrapping them in a tarp and burying them next to the house was good enough.
You’re going to LOVE Monday’s strip.
It’s also possibly becuase no one ever passed a law to regulate the sale and possession of cleaning rods and bore brushes. Maybe…
Wish I’d stocked up on ARs and ammo a few months back. I’d be rich, now. (No, I’m not a “hoarder”. Even in my fantasy world where I _did_ stock up, right now I’d be _selling_, not holding. Which would increase the spot supply, and enable that many more people who couldn’t otherwise get one to do so. And also, making me rich. 🙂 )
Sigh. I wish I had laid in a good supply of WWB 9mm before it dissolved into dreams and pixie dust. My cranky Taurus doesn’t like to shoot other ammo, so no plinking for me.
At least Mosin food is still available.