Movies #1
Dec19
True story. I suppose most shooters are guilty of this at one point or another. The problem is that Hollywood LIES about guns constantly. Ask anyone who’s familiar with firearms – they’ll give you an earful of their favorite movie inaccuracies. Mine is still that a running gunman with a pistol in each hand can miraculously be 100% accurate with every shot. Second favorite: The AK47/AR-15 that has a magical 600 round magazine on full auto. Gotta get me one of them.
I think a 18 shot revolver would go “thump” *hits the ground* at some point because it would be rather heavy.
Don’t even get me started on Kinetic Clicking.
Mook: *draws Glock (or Glock-alike)*
Foley Artist: *click*
Me: GLOCKS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY WHAAAAARGARBL
For some reason, the variation that really bugs me is when a (non-DA) weapon clicks for two or more trigger pulls.
Was watching a bounty hunter movie the other night. The main character fired 7 rounds from what was described (and looked) like a 5 shot revolver and TWELVE another time. LOL Yeah, I’m obsessive about shot counting….not from movies, but from the range. So it just happens when I’m watching movies.
Hell, I do that too. (We went to see the remake of Red Dawn in the theater and at some points I was sniggering into my shirtsleeve while everyone around us Didn’t See The Joke.)
I was watching ‘Mysteries at the Museum’ two weeks ago and they were talking about a shoot-out in the ’30s where Pretty Boy Floyd supposedly shot down two Officers, an FBI Agent and their Mobster prisoner. The scene of the victims had the Agent and Officers still clutching their Beretta 92s. All the officers that took down Floyd in a later scene had Berettas as well.
I had NO idea that the 92 had been around since the ’30s! Just one of many f-ups.
And yes, I’m as bad or worse as Mick….
They’re the guns in Ultraviolet where there’s pocket dimensions full of ammo for those guns that magically fire more than the usual round of bullets. The only people I see do gun shows accurately are FLASHPOINT from Canada about their HRU (Hostage Response Units). They show part of the training and tactics and do have misfires and hit civilians during the show. It’s cop drama, but they try to be more “realistic” with the guns, the bullets sound less like Hollywood FX and quieter or noisier depending on the ammo and shot.
Meanwhile, my wife and I were watching some movie or television show at one point and someone hands a civilian a handgun, either a beretta or a glock, I can’t remember which. The civilian proceeds to slap in the cl…. magazine and pulls back on the slide, as is proper when you’re being attacked by zombies or mutants or whatnot. My wife immediately took issue with the fact that a normal person would have that level of proficiency with the basic workings of a firearm. This led to a minor argument at the end of which I surmised that my wife hadn’t watched nearly as many action movies as I had. So yeah, they may play fast and loose with bullet count and whatnot, but my only experience shooting a hand gun, a .22 pistol my dad had purchased for target purposes, I knew exactly what to do.
At the same time, every time I teach an adult how to shoot an auto handgun, ANY auto handgun, I have to show them how to work the slide.
Watching one of the “Lethal Weapon” movies, someone is about to run Mel Gibson over with a bulldozer. His handgun rounds are sparking off the blade, can’t shoot the driver. Danny Glover throws him an Ingram (M11, I think), yelling “Cop-Killers!” (“cop-killer” bullets being a subplot of this flick). Gibson empties the mag, turning the bulldozer blade and the bad guy into Swiss cheese.
Sometime later, wife and I were talking about the “cop killer” bullet flap in Congress, and she said “But they have to ban them! Look what they did in that Lethal Weapon movie!”. Multiple headdesks and facepalms ensued.
And don’t forget that they went through the blade of a dozer while two “bulletproof” vest stopped the rounds. One would think that the dozer blade would be more protection than two vests.
Dozer blades are typically soft-tempered, so they won’t shatter the first time they hit a rock or something. I’m not real sure they’d stop a regular jacketed bullet, much less AP. Then again, I don’t shoot a lot of bulldozers, so I could be wrong.
Don’t get me started. Hollywood can’t get ANYTHING right. Computers still have 1960s-era spinning tapes and banks of flashing lights. 4-stroke motorcycles sound like 2-strokes and vice-versa. Spaceships fight in 2D like they’re water naval ships on an ocean surface or they maneuver like aircraft in a vacuum.
There’s a reason I haven’t seen a movie in 8-10 years, besides high prices, sticky seats, expensive candy, cellphones ringing, people talking, and shrieking babies.
The two best shows that have gotten aspects of space stuff right are Battlestar Galactica and Firefly. In BSG the pilots can and frequently do change the direction their fighters are facing without altering their momentum and fire upon pursuing enemies. In Firefly if something is happening in the vacuum of space, you don’t hear it.
I can’t imagine you’ve EVER seen a starfury from Babylon 5. They may have a maximum and a crusing speed of “Plot” but they are shown involving ALL of physics in their spaceflight, far better than any episode of Battlestar Galactica, Buck Rogers, Battlestar Galactica 1980, or(the couple of) BSG episodes I saw. As for Firefly, there is no need to put a firearm in a bag(spacesuit) before firing, as gunpowder provides it’s own oxygen for combustion, and since I was watching with friends I kind of didn’t notice anything other than “our engine spins” regarding spaceflight physics.
i like the one where the character can carry two handguns and SOMEHOW keep them both loaded, operate the slides, etc.
this is where I insert my rage about call of duty and how kids think you can carry two sub machine guns, some how reload them and dolphin dive all over the place doing it.
That’s why when I play CoD, I only use one gun, and don’t dolphin dive like an idiot. And I generally AIM when I shoot. But at least CoD is kind of accurate with the hip firing accuracy…there is none. XD
Reminds me of the scene from “The Last Action Hero” when Arnie shoots at the bad guys, when he ends up in the real world. The car doesn’t explode, and he looks at his gun like it’s defective!
I still remember the first time I found out that guns don’t sound in real life like they do in the movies. Someone had hit a deer with their car, but it didn’t die. The cops were there, and shot it to put it out of its misery. I happened to be driving by at that point, and was surprised that all I heard were a couple pops, kinda muted, nothing like the loud bangs I heard in the movies.
oh, that is sooo me…. It’s not easy to enjoy a good action flick…
Honestly, I kinda like the overkill in movies with infinite capacities, exploding bullets and overly loud weapons. Lets face it, even though a .22 goes “pop!”, it will still make my ears ring. On occasion, I’ll see a show where the gun goes off and people loose their hearing.
What bugs the living snot out of me is someone throwing their weight around in a hostage situation while holding a 1911, or browning high power with the hammer down, safety on, or both! I can’t wait for the script where the cop or hostage figures it out and punches the snot out of the villain holding the gun.
I don’t know much about guns, but what I find somewhat amusing in action movies is the way they deal with wounds… if the hero gets injured it’s always from one hit. Pistols, shotguns, infinite-ammo AKs- they never seem to put more than one bullet in anyone who isn’t going to die from it.
Where can one get those hollywood magazines that have unlimited capacity and the revolvers that fire more than 10 shots.
I like 80s action flicks where the hero is always dead accurate firing full auto from the hip. The Running Man was on the other night and Arnie was using a Steyr AUG to mow down baddies, firing from the hip, and he didn’t hit a single innocent bystander!
It’s not just guns. Develop a little specialized knowledge in any field and you will discover that Hollywood gets that wrong too. Genetic testing doesn’t work like that, mental illness doesn’t work like that, crime scene investigations don’t work like that, fist fights don’t work like that… and on and on.
Sigh
Yeah, been known to do this too.
Personal favorit hate itme, that episode of CSI NY (IIRC) where they had someone with two bullets in the same bulletwound. It was caused by a Kriss Super V because “It fires so fast i has no recoil” or something similarly stupid.