Oops.
I can’t believe I did that. I miscounted days and ran out of comics.
Comic will post this evening. I’m a dunce.
[edit] What a fucking day.
Just to get it out of the way, no, this is not going to be a pattern. I have been damned good about keeping this comic updated.
Tonight I got a phone call that I wish I hadn’t. Not saying that the call shouldn’t have been made, but I do wish the circumstances behind the phone call hadn’t happened.
So yeah. Tomorrow’s comic will ALSO be late. It happens, folks. I do feel shitty about it. But I have a whirlwind of shit going on in my skull.
On top of that, what’s been going on in Ferguson, MO is absolutely horrifying.
Not saying the shooting of Michael Brown, by itself, is scary, although it probably SHOULD fucking be, according to the witness testimony of what happened versus the police report version. Especially since Anonymous hacked and leaked the dispatch audio. No shooting was reported, even though a cop had literally just shot a teenager in the street.
Honestly, even if what the police are claiming is true (and I bloody fucking well think they’re full of shit), that’s not the part that terrifies me.
Once the protests began, before any riots broke out, the FAA banned all air traffic in the area under 3000 feet, effectively stopping all News helicopters.
Then the cops, decked out in Totes Operator Gear, decided to tell the press to GTFO, and in many cases, not verbally.
This morning, when I was trying to read up on the story some more, almost every news article I clicked on was deleted within 30 minutes of it posting. Big fat 404. News didn’t start flowing on it, from real news channels, until almost 11 am.
Folks, this is a police state in action. No, not nationwide. But for the people of Ferguson, MO, this is a mother fucking police state. They have slapped a big fat silencer on the 4th estate, and are doing everything they can to keep people, worldwide, from knowing what’s going on there. Yeah, the arrival of the new guy is a good step down from cops in gear that’s heavier than what my roommate wore in Afghanistan, but this should still anger you. This may have been a test run by a law enforcement agency, to see just how much they could silence any information in a scenario where cops fucked up.
This is not okay. Cops don’t need fucking MRAPs. Cops don’t need military-level equipment when dealing with an unarmed protest. This is fucking bullshit.
I am not affiliated with Anonymous whatsoever. But I do like what they’ve done over the years, including this.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I kept refreshing the page wondering why the image wasn’t showing up, took me a while before I scrolled down and felt like a dunce.
Dude, miscounting means you’d miss Friday, not Thursday. Meanwhile we all twist in the wind, waiting for the next compelling episode of FTF.
Just if it’ll help, here’s how numbers go: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 (and so on). Math is fun and you can use it every day! Example: “Jesus, look at THAT hot number! She goes to 11!”
Actually, that’s not how it works.
If I can, I usually try to get all 5 strips done the preceding weekend. Sometimes I run out of time, and I can only do Monday’s comic due to other obligations.
This means on Monday, I do comics for Tuesday through Thursday, as Thursday is a day I can hammer out time to do a few extra comics.
I did three comics this weekend, and for SOME stupid fucking reason, thought I’d done 4. I did upload all of them while drunk, and yeah. COMPLETELY skipped my mind that I didn’t have a comic for Thursday.
About to upload it here.
You had a brain fart. It happens. Just don’t go it again. 🙂
See? Migraine + Midrin = brain off.
I’ll try not to. After the day I had today, yeah, tomorrow’s comic is gonna be late as fuck. But I have the weekend to reset.
One plus two plus one plus one…
No. One plus two plus TWO plus one…
I thought it was one plus one plus two plus one
Okay, fine. One plus two plus one… SHADDUP!
side note: Never realized how odd the word “plus” looked.
Almost any word looks odd when you type it enough.
Miss one comic and all of a sudden it’s a free-for-all.
That’s because it’s actually a gutted platypus. They always look odd.
So, how long did everyone else wait for the comic to load before scrolling down for the comments?
I think everyone got inspired by yesterdays shopping suggestions. (singing) “Cigareeettes and whisky and wild wild women.”
The checklist just needs guns, ammo, and commercial grade fireworks.
*ATF is NOT a checklist* It is a glorious, all encompassing checklist.
Beer run! Who’s making the tacos?
If the ATF is a checklist, count me in. Right after I move to ‘MuricaLand. I’ll cover booze and tobacco
You need to save up more of your bad gun pun comics as emergency spares. Or Ormar really slipping and falling so a flashlight has been rectally imbedded at a ED. (all rights released by me for any use by anyone)
Omar’s Rectal Flashlight would make a great band name…
for Nickleback 😀
A better one is “Still Haven’t Written Our Second Song”
Or maybe Still Haven’t Invented The Actual Second Song, or SHITASS.
Know what dudes? We all fuck up sometimes. He may have something special planned for Friday, and just missed one day prior. Or he might have been drunk/hung over and just plain forgot. I do that shit all the time. You don’t?
I don’t. I never get myself organized enough to have something planned ahead at all.
I think we’re related.
Glad you’re alive and free. I thought you and us had pissed off the ATF so much they shut you down.
Lord, I am very, very drunk……this you posted on the 12th, and that folks explains the missing day
I think he got drunk and forgot about us. 😀
eh.. no worries. I love you regardless.
There’s never a crowbar around when you need it most.
RE: the FAA airspace restriction:
Kid is shot the 9th. Looting begins the 10th. TFR (Temporary Flight Restriction) goes up the 12th. Well after violence has begun.
http://tfr.faa.gov/tfr_map_ims/html/reg/scale7/tile_41_32.html
Additionally, the TFR covers the airspace very close to St. Louis International, including the final approach paths to 3 different runways. I can possibly see a legit reason for wanting to keep an excess of news choppers out of that general area. There is still air traffic over Ferguson below 3000 feet in the form of commercial airline traffic, so there isn’t a total blockout here. The authorities have fucked this one up royally and it should scare the hell out of everyone, but let’s not spread easily debunked rumors. Works against the cause and gives people an excuse to dismiss you.
I’m still suspicious as all hell though.
I found out more about Fergison from porn tumblr accounts then the actual news (thats not a joke tumblr accounts dedicated to sexy sexy things are providing better news coverage then the news)
The part that reallynpissed me off was the tweets from US soldiers saying they had less hardware on when supressing riots in iraq afganistan and other parts of the middle east. Not because they didnt have it but cause people tend to be hostile twards people dressed like ACCTUAL FUCKING STORM TROOPERS
Fyi, people were shooting at the helicopters, hence the TFR. (Temporary Flight Restrictions are fairly common like around forest fires and flying bullets.)
Not saying that deserves an MRAP though.
And regarding forgeting a comic… f it, your strip, do what you want. Just remember we are at your artistic mercy.
I love that the state senator who got gassed in the protests called them out on their bull. That was about the time the shit hit the fan in the cop’s direction.
That.
Is scary as hell.
The only thing that shocks me about Fergustan is that the motherfucking pig wasn’t lynched on the spot.
Careful what you wish for. On the spot lynchings go to who ever has the most power or is most popular and has little to do with what is actually just.
When we as a nation had a problem with lynchings I recall that the innocent did not have a just outcome. Let it go to trial and justice be served.
Lynchings are reserved for a time when everyone KNOWS traditional justice has been miscarried since, as you say, they’re “democratic”… Whoever is most popular.
The sky is falling! The sky is falling! And Ferguson is ground zero!
Lordy. 😀
I’m from Ferguson so I’ll give you a little insight on the situation.
Since a few hours after that kid was shot, the lovely sub-human trash I call neighbors has been rioting 2 miles from my house. Every day they’ve organized a peaceful protest, and every protest has turned into a riot, every single night since Sunday. They made it a no fly zone because police officers from over 20 jurisdictions are in the area with their helicopters, and the last thing they want is to crash into a helicopter full of reporters. Reporters have shown up every day and have been given no special treatment. They get cleared out of the streets just like everyone else. You can claim freedom of the press, freedom of speech, all you want. But for public safety, the police are clearing EVERYONE off the streets. Why is that? Because they aren’t there to make good press. At this point they’re there to protect businesses and discourage the rioters. Hundreds of police are pulling 14 hour shifts, just to keep the rampant crime down, because apparently the best response to injustice is to commit mass crime and destroy your local businesses. There have been drive bys, assaults on civilians, people patrolling around in groups with guns, just be-fucking-cause they feel like it. One officer responded to a call of suspicious activity and found one such group, a guy decided to point his pistol at the officer and the officer shot him and sent him to the ICU.
Now, as for why they want protesters off the streets. It’s not about Mike Brown. The FBI is already investigating the case. The officer will be judged in a trial by jury and probably found guilty. It’s already set in motion. They don’t need to protest anymore. So why do they need them to get off the streets when rioting is happening? When people are breaking into a store, it’s hard to respond to the situation when there’s a hundred people standing in front waving their arms around and yelling, claiming to be peaceful protesters. They’re getting in the way of legitimate police work. It’s absolutely ridiculous and they should get the hell out of the way.
I’ve seen videos of stores being looted, stores I shop at normally but can’t because they’re destroyed, I saw the Autozone guy get his ass kicked. QuikTrip got burned down, so they closed all their stores in the area. People were looting Walmart. They destroyed a bus stop. A tire and wheel store got looted. They broke into my goddamn Taco Bell. Where am I supposed to get tacos from at 2am now?
The police situation in Ferguson has nothing to do with that kid. Tragic accident as it was, it’s become something else entirely. Sorry for the rant, but that’s how the people who actually live here feel.
Any questions, just ask.
> But for public safety, the police are clearing EVERYONE off the streets.
They have absolutely NO legal right to clear members of the press. NONE. That press badge means they are allowed out when others are not.
But without irony, thanks for your report on the situation. Really. I’m not being sarcastic whatsoever.
They haven’t given a damn about press badges since at LEAST the Boston bombing, whence EVERYONE had to stay in their homes “or else”.
The tinfoil crowd still thinks this is a test run to see how far they cast the blackout net. Thus far? Too many leaks.
Hey, don’t you know? “Public safety” is the root password to the constitution, and “public health” is the backup password for when the first one isn’t appropriate.
I don’t know how to edit my pending post, so I’d just like to add this as a disclaimer to it.
I am not a cop, I do not sympathize with the cops. I don’t like most of the cops I’ve met even in casual situations. I know there are many bad cops, I know there are many good cops. I am trying to tell the side of the story that nobody seems to tell, what’s happening from a tactical point of view. I have just explained what the police are attempting to do. Police in this country overstep their boundaries A LOT lately, and I am aware of that. It is wrong. Just because it happens sometimes doesn’t mean that every single police officer is evil and it happens every time.
I have personally had encounters where police made shit up to try to get me to admit wrong doing and I successfully fought back the right way, without violence or even a heated argument.
Answering one wrong act with thousands of wrong acts that aren’t even directed at the original wrong-doer, is just as bad as the original wrong act.
Also it’s 4am, so forgive me if any of this is incoherent, but I’m trying.
Is Mr. Gunowner still married? We haven’t seen Miss Brenda in awhile.
I doubt that anyone could ever shut down anonymous. Simply because it probably isn’t just one large group of people organized over the internet but a few guys or gals who can edit an video together which responds in the way that people want it to during something bad happening.
I doubt some Americans or Europeans gave much notice to new laws implemented by the Queensland government in Australia in regards to “Biker Gangs” which actually was worded similarly to “Any organisation of 3 or more people regardless of name or legality” but the news went wild when Anonymous made a video which the media claimed was threatening to the premier. All it did was say their standard slogan with the Premier’s name inserted “We do not forgive, We do not forget. Campbell Newman, Expect us.”
Everyone went nuts over the video and didn’t care about what they said other than what i quoted. The law is still in effect and it seems the video did not leave the impression wanted. Hell, they even upped security around the state government ministers after the video.
Here’s the Video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptyyd32qxLw
Notice how they added an annotation to say that “expect us” is not a threat but a motto.
I’d like to know more about what news links related to Ferguson you touched that 404’d.
There were three. First one, I do not recall the source, but it WAS a major news source. The second was the NY Times, and third was AOL News. Literally stories that went up about the situation, and by the time I was ready to post them to Facebook, they were fucking nuked.
This is completely not okay.
I’m old enough to remember the ’67 riots here in Detroit. Whole city shutdown. National Guard running tanks and APVs through the streets. Actual troops marching through the streets. Followed by the “white flight” and death spiral of the city’s economy. Seems like old times…
The announcement that the MO State Police were taking over the situation from the local Gestapo…er, police, didn’t exactly give me a dose of the warm fuzzies. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
What would you prefer?
Status quo is no good. And doing nothing (allowing riots, shooting at helicopters, burning down stores, looting from businesses) isn’t a good option either. I don’t see a better option on the table.
What would I prefer? I’d prefer a situation where the police didn’t incite a riot by tear gassing peaceful protesters, and then institute a militarized takeover of the town. I’d prefer that the killing of a teenage boy by police not get swept under the rug just because he’s black (and you better believe that if it was a white kid killed by a black cop, there would have been an investigation within hours, not several days later). I’d prefer not to see the chief of the local constabulary take it upon himself to declare martial law and start taking White-Out to the Constitution because he has some nifty new surplus military equipment to justify the expense of purchasing. I’d prefer to not have to accept the fact that we now live in an America where our citizens are having to receive advice from the fucking Palestinians on how to cope with living in a fucking police state.
But mostly I’d prefer to not have to see page after page after page of comments on the internet rationalizing and justifying and excusing the actions of the police in Ferguson because “Who cares? It’s just a bunch of whiny niggers crying over a dead nigger. They’re all thugs anyway, the little bastard probably deserved it.”
Now, now, nobody’s saying “nigger”. The dogwhistle du jour is “looter”.
I don’t think they’re tear gassing peaceful protesters. Considering the looting, arson, assaults, and shooting at helicopters happens at night (not during the day when the peaceful protesters are out), I’m inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt when they tear gas (non lethal non permanent damage option compared to other capabilities cops have) a group of agitated molotov cocktail throwing mask wearing rioters.
Yes, you’re right. The black chief of the state police, who grew up in Ferguson, is exactly the same as the white chief of local police who hangs confederate flags in his office.
I don’t know what news source you use, but I’m seeing lots of coverage and no deletions. The top four stories on MSNBC.com at this moment are different aspects of the story. Try Al Jazeera America, too. As for the government, I think the state stepping in to have the state police run policing and the FBI to investigate says a lot.
I was going to suggest looking trans-Atlantic for news but …
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/ferguson-riots-police-officer-who-shot-michael-brown-named-as-darren-wilson-9672051.html
… wasn’t sure how you’d take to the comments: “True, but what else do you do if the local Asda (Walmart) sells assault rifles with 100 bullet cartridges?” *twitch*
NPR is covering it — apparently the cops took off their riot gear last night and went out for selfies with the protestors to lessen tensions.
‘They’re Talking To People’: Tensions Ease In Ferguson As Police Change Tactics
Just for the record, I beaned him in the head with the can. Laughed my butt off when I saw there was achievement attached to doing so. It just seemed like the right thing to do.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-photos-released-of-suspect-michael-brown-robbing-store-before-shooting/
Now, I have to agree that the militarization of the police is disturbing to say the least. They are CIVILIAN law enforcement. They should not be given anything that the normal civilian cannot purchase. Oh, they have to face gangbangers and drug dealers with illegal weapons… SO DO WE A-HOLE! And they’ll cross my land before they even get to your dumb ass, and they HAVE shot at me. Oh, right, I call the cops when they do this, and they show up HOURS later and take a nice report and NOTHING EVER GETS DONE ABOUT IT!
But they’re just dreamers coming to the USA for a better life, and not real criminals, RIGHT!
Sigh… rant over…
At any rate, it seems that the story of the no fly zone was because “protesters” were firing shots at police helicopters. Seems like a good idea. But you know what, maybe you’re right. Let the news helicopters in there and let them get shot down by these “protesters.” Maybe then they wouldn’t be praising them as sweet innocent bystanders who are being beaten down by the man.
I said from the start that the story of the friend seemed fishy. But I held my tongue until I knew more. It made absolutely 0 sense for the cop to gun down the kid for no reason, and let his friend live. I know if I’m going to murder someone, I want to let the guy standing next to him run away so he can identify me as a murderer… Now it turns out that Anonymous is wrong, and didn’t get the transcript. There was another officer who was at the now burned QT getting the statement from the person who was robbed by a large person who may be Brown, or may not be, but could easily be confused with Brown… so at least the stop was reasonable, and appears to make far more sense than “We was just walkin in the street”
Tommycat? Have you read any of the first-person accounts, not filtered through other media?
Again, WE DON’T KNOW enough to say for sure. What we do know is that the guy in the video at the store that was robbed looks an awful lot like Brown(same shoes pants shirt and build). I have seen the video of the kid intimidating a clerk. It’s not too much of a stretch to think he MIGHT have attempted to strong arm the cop as well.
I don’t pretend to know anything. And I certainly don’t trust “eyewitness” accounts from an area that has a hatred of cops.
Also, it seems to me that shooting down a kid in cold blood for stealing cigars from a convenience store is a tiny bit excessive….no?
He “could easily be confused with Brown” if they all look the same, I’m sure.
Yes, somehow, despite my history I do think shooting someone for stealing a handful of cigars is excessive. What’s the figure the ACLU put on it in their “yellow note” thing? $100,000? Oh, hey, http://www.livescience.com/15855-dollar-human-life.html : Likewise, when a soldier is killed in Iraq, “the government pays the family $600,000. I guess that’s what they think a life is worth.” Must have been some awesome cigars. Even a “King of Denmark” is only £75.
Yeah, watch the video. Same shoes, shorts, shirt, build, and while the camera view I saw was difficult to make out a face, it seems pretty likely that they were the same person. And of course pulling the race card on me is kinda funny considering my mom is black.
I don’t believe for a minute that the cop shot him with only the cigars as his reason. I’d say it has more to do with Brown beating the cop or reaching for his firearm.
BUT I don’t know, because I wasn’t there. And neither were many of these “eyewitnesses”
Supposedly there were two inside the car, and a shot was fired inside the car prior to him fleeing and getting shot, it sounds plausible the PO was assaulted inside the car.
Again, I note that I was not there. Everything we’re doing is speculation. It just seems more plausible that an officer shot a possible robbery suspect during a struggle where the suspect was grabbing for his firearm than Racist officer shoots unarmed person for the hell of it and lets the second guy run free.
I wasn’t there either. If I was there now my sign would say something like: “Can someone please let us all know what really happened?” The officer tried to pull him into the car, he reached into the car to grab the officer’s gun, he was running away, he was standing in the street with his arms raised, he was running then they shot him then he turned and raised his hands and then they kept shooting him or … what, ffs?
You may not be white, but 50 our of 53 cops there are, and the page on CNN I just read says:
A police officer who responded to the robbery said he identified Brown as the robbery suspect by comparing surveillance images of the incident to the body of the slain teen.
Another one says this:
The Ferguson police officer who shot Michael Brown didn’t stop him because he was suspected in a convenience-store robbery, but because he was “walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic,” the city’s police chief said Friday.
Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson — hours after documents came out labeling the 18-year-old Brown as the “primary suspect” in the store theft — told reporters the “robbery does not relate to the initial contact between the officer and Michael Brown.”
I’m pretty sure the coroner ought to be able to tell us from what angle and distance Brown was shot and how his shoulders were arranged at the time. It’d be nice if people could wait for that information … but which came first, the looting, the tear gas, the protests or the “independent” investigation?
It’d also be nice if people could stick to attacking their actual enemies, rather than just looting and burning whatever buildings happen to be around. 70mm rocket into the Katyusha launcher? Fine by me. 500kg bomb into a hospital quarter of a mile from the Katyusha launch site two hours later? Not the same thing. Empty your pistol into the guts of the guy who raped and strangled your daughter? Fair enough, provoked, temporary insanity, hardly likely to do it again and so on, so you can go and mourn at home. Burn down the entire apartment building where he lived and his fifth cousin twice removed’s pet shop? WRONG.
What I read was that the stop wasn’t in relation to the robbery, but because he was walking in the street blocking traffic. After initial contact, Wilson noticed the cigars, and began questioning Brown about the robbery when all hell broke loose.
I think the truth is more likely that Brown was offended by the clerk’s comment about “You gotta pay for that” and was just going to teach that guy a lesson and just take it since the clerk insinuated that he wasn’t going to pay for it(in the surveillance video Johnson is seen putting the first pack of cigars back when Brown grabs and throws a whole bunch and throws them on the ground and grabs another one). While returning home, Brown and Johnson were walking in the street, and already in a bad mood from the clerk when Wilson confronts them and Brown’s chip got the better of him and he lashed out at the “typical cop” hassling a black kid.
Wilson notices the pack and attempts to detain Brown. Brown gets scared and thinks his life is about to be ruined and attacks Wilson. Fear makes people do stupid things. Brown easily gets the better of Wilson who is now in a position where HE believes he either acts or he is dead.
It’s all speculation based on my experiences. I’ve had the clerk all but accuse me of stealing while I was still in front of him reaching for my wallet. Heck I started putting my wallet in my front pocket for a while because one clerk pulled a gun on me when he thought I was going for a gun. I’ve had cops stop me for walking in the street because I stumbled and stepped ONE FOOT on the street. If I had been through a bad experience at a store, and immediately followed it up with the “typical cop” incident, it’s possible that I might have lashed out too.
Yeah, that CCTV footage of him putting stuff on the counter in front of the clerk didn’t look much like a robbery to me. Sure, I’ve heard of people buying a pack of bubblegum and swiping a pack of cigarettes while the clerk’s distracted or swiping all the £20 notes in the till while it’s open and running, but it just didn’t look like a robbery.
He actually said “You gotta pay for that” to a customer who’d just put stuff on the counter? They assume you’re going for a gun if you put a hand behind your back?
This is one of those “First World Problem” things, isn’t it? We worry about school funding, NHS dentists, car parking spaces and so on and then hear on the news that a place on the edge of the capital city is finally getting mains water, or parents encourage their kids to smoke because cancer doesn’t kill as quickly as malaria. That’s a whole perspective from which I hadn’t had to consider the world before.
Then again, when I was 15 over 91% of our population was white, and over 91% of the arseholes I’ve met have been white, so I’m not surprised you meet a lot of white guys who are arseholes. 91.4% and maybe 99.5%.
The CCTV footage shows Brown hand Johnson the pack of Sweets. That’s when the clerk says “You gotta pay for that.” Brown was still standing at the register at the time. SO I think the initial strong arm was really just him getting pissed off at the clerk assuming he wouldn’t pay, and just being mad enough to take the pack as an FU to the clerk. The reason Johnson gets away without being arrested is because he put that first pack back on the counter, and walked out before Brown grabbed the second pack.
Also there’s a video of an eyewitness describing what went on.
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/168698-eyewitness-recalls-important-detail-background-video-mins-ferguson-shooting/
The background conversation sums up why the officer shot so many times. I make no bones about it, I am a friend of cops, but the one thing that pisses me off more than crooks, is BAD cops. I just prefer to have all the information before I just assume that the cop went mad and randomly shot some kid. Like I said, it’s possible that Brown was just sick of being treated like a thug. Though there were pictures of him throwing Bloods gang signs, so who knows…
Yeah, he deserved being shot in the back with his hands up. Fucking niggers. /sarcasm
Also I find it hilarious that people think this is a gang sign.
That’s not a fucking gang sign. That’s a peace sign, strange as it may be, first popularized by the Beastie Boys in the 1980s, in hip-hop culture.
HINT: Just because someone black makes a sign with their fingers does NOT equal a gang sign. I know, hard to believe, but it’s true. White people do it all the time.
No. Have you got some evidence he was shot in the back?
I lived in a Bloods neighborhood. I’m talking about the other pic of him throwing the “B” What he’s throwing there is a “Peace-out” non-gang sign.
And by the way, MY MOM’S FUCKING BLACK!
He didn’t deserve to be shot in the back for stealing a pack of cigars. He got shot in the chest and head for bumrushing the cop.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvIGyW-CMAMB-A-.jpg
Bloods gang sign.
Interesting, but two things:
1) “This is terribly important because if Mike Brown had been shot, and he advanced towards the cop instead of surrendering, it would substantiate the narrative that the policeman shot in self-defense due to the fact that he was being threatened with severe bodily harm.”
Ah, maybe the second bullet that hit him was fired to stop him attacking the guy who’d already hit him with a bullet, but I don’t think you can shoot someone again in self-defence if you started the fight by shooting someone not in self-defence.
2: “He was still standing … He kept coming towards him.” Who was standing and who was moving towards whom? It’s not clear. Maybe Mike Brown was standing still and the cop was walking towards him, firing. I’d need to see where the brass landed and where the blood splashed to answer that one.
First part of it was talking about how they were brawling inside the cop car first. And from the autopsy report, it doesn’t appear that there were any wounds on his back. No entry, and no exit wounds on his back. This BS about him being shot in the back while he was running away is just stupidity now. All the wounds are to the front of his body.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=LedeSumLargeMedia&module=a-lede-package-region®ion=lede-package&WT.nav=lede-package&assetType=nyt_now
You want to talk about the demilitarization of our police, Fine, I agree. Do you want to talk about police being too eager to pull their firearm, I agree. But this guy is not your hero. At best he showed poor judgement in NOT following what the officer said.
I’ve seen a couple of articles about that autopsy thing now. See below for my comment on it.
I don’t hear: “they were both in the truck.” I hear: “The police were still in the truck ’cause he was fightin’ over it,” which … doesn’t make a lot of sense. I didn’t say he was shot in the back. I read the article about the autopsy and I watched the CNN clip that didn’t even show the image they used as a thumbnail, and I commented below that we still don’t know what happened. The man recorded in that video clip actually says he doesn’t know what happened. Where he clearly was shot is in the top of the head. It seems unlikely a bullet went in near his right eye, came out through his jaw and went back in through his shoulder while he was moving forwards to attack someone. Maybe that could happen if he had his head down to charge. There being no gunpowder residue means he was too far away to be trying a flying tackle and it means he wasn’t shot while wrestling for a gun inside the police car, but maybe that bullet hit him while he was rushing forwards, head-down, in a mad charge at an armed cop … maybe … and then the next one went in through the top of his head as he stumbled and fell from the surprise of being shot there, as the cop was still shooting at that point … maybe. Then again, maybe he was getting down on the road on his knees with his arms out to the sides as instructed and the cop decided he was doing it too slowly or mouthing off too much and shot him anyway. We don’t know.
Simply not supported by evidence. There are multiple witnesses who came forward before the media got a hold of this that confirmed the officer’s story. The gun going off in the car did not say it hit Brown. Looking back at it, it sounds like during the struggle the firearm went off. It may have scared Brown enough to get away. Now there’s reports of the officer having an orbital socket blow out. Granted I haven’t gotten a second site confirmation(all sources point back to Gateway Pundit, so take that for what it’s worth. Though they claim that the PROSECUTOR’s office confirmed it.
From one report, the first shot in the car went elsewhere. The second shot was fired into the eye. Other shots appeared to hit the arm, and the final shot was the one to the top of the head.
No offense, but once someone has assaulted an officer, I stop giving them the benefit of the doubt that they’ll just surrender.
Different shoes, different build, and the Chief has now said that the stop didn’t involve the robbery at all, as it had only just occurred, but was because the two were walking in the street.
In the shooting, multiple witnesses state that he was running away when he was hit the first time, turned and put his hands up, and the cop kept firing. They then did not call for an ambulance. Instead they left him on the ground, ensuring that whatever chance there ever was of saving him was lost.
And it beggers my imagination that if he had grabbed for the gun that they would let the other guy go, much less if they actually suspected them of the robbery.
Nice try, but the friend CONFIRMS that he was there at the time of the robbery.
I’ve been following folks on the ground in Ferguson on twitter. Seriously, seem to be getting the most up to date info. Follow hashtag #Ferguson.
Friends in Ferguson. Friends with police scanners, and that’s good because the online scanners were down. (The dudes running them didn’t want rioters to hear…)
Tear gas, flash bangs and rubber bullets because of one thrown water bottle.
Washington Post, and Huffington Post reporters forcefully arrested inside a MacDonald’s
$5000 sniper rifles and a Tank.
Cops acting like dicks.
Sonic crowd control devices, used on the peaceful protesters.
CS gas shot at Al Jazeera reporters, making them run away.
Alderman arrested… (wtf?)
Roads shut down, and people not allowed free movement. (not where the riots were happening)
General ass clown behavior. Looters the first night, and the cops afterward.
Things seem to be getting calmer now. There is a good link to all the riot and county channels, and reedit has been wonderful for keeping up on things, but when the ‘real’ news is being shot at… hard to follow them.
“Washington Post, and Huffington Post reporters forcefully arrested inside a MacDonald’s”
Good to know that even a blind pig finds an acorn once in a while. There’s schadenfreude in seeing rights-destroying bastards having their rights destroyed.
he had an extensive yuuf criminal record and 4 felonies from nov of last year, boy was a well known pos to the pd/so’s in the area (DAS), the horseshit of ‘hims be gettings hims life togedda’ doesn’t fly with this one … al and de fambly be looking of de big payout, yessss they do…
Hey, need a napkin? Looks like you’ve got some racist twat spilled on you.
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2014/08/13/michael-brown-had-no-criminal-record.html
http://www.freep.com/article/20140814/NEWS07/308140128/Ferguson-Michael-Brown-shot-Missouri
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Michael_Brown
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/14/michael-brown-no-record/14041457/
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/ferguson-police-name-michael-brown
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/14/michael-brown-no-criminal-record/14049261/
Let me guess: you watch FOX.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-photos-released-of-suspect-michael-brown-robbing-store-before-shooting/
Yeah, god damn niggers stealing cigars, we better shoot them in the back when they’re running away.
You got a bleach to recommend? I wanna get my whites their whitest.
why yes, yes i do …
i highly recommend arm and hammer washing soda, it does a wonderful job even with sticky tar and feathers, and leaves my ceremonial robes their purest white ever…
afaic nothing does the job as well, even rope burns and bloodstains wash right out and it doesn’t ruin the perfect drape of the custom fitted robe…;p;p;p
Autopsy on Brown demonstrates that he was not, repeat NOT, “shot in the back”.
How inconvenient for those who have already made up their minds that they know exactly what happened, how and why.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-family-autopsy/index.html
[ Brown was shot at least six times — all to the front of his body, according to the preliminary results.
Family attorney Anthony Gray said the independent autopsy, conducted Sunday, found that Brown was shot twice in the head and four times in the right arm.
“Already based on this limited information, people believe it plays into whatever theory they have about what happened,” CNN senior media correspondent Brian Stelter said.
“Because these shots were all in the front apparently, that might lend credence to people’s theories that Michael Brown was going after the police officer.”
“On the other hand,” Stelter added, “the shots were on the arms (and head) on the front. Does that mean his arms were up?”]
“Brown was shot twice in the head and four times in the right arm.”
Now that’s what I call incomplete information. Which parts of the head and arm, and from what angles? I can’t say for sure that a police 9mm or .38 or whatever was used couldn’t hit an oncoming thug in the right eye, right jaw and right clavicle in that order with a single shot, but it seems unlikely. The video seems to show him lying face-down. That wound path and the entry wound on the top of the head suggest he was shot while toppling forward or trying to get down on the ground with his arms outstretched. The report mentions no gunpowder residue, so he was not shot while reaching in through the police car window and trying to grab the gun.
Oof. Man said autopsy shows six shots were fired. Wrong. Six bullets hit him. That’s not the same thing.
Yeah, it’s still clear as mud. Could be he was hit so many times in the arm because he had it flung out in front of him in a defensive position, or because it was stretched out in a grasping attempt while charging. Or both. Could explain why there were no center-mass shots: the shielding arm blocked them all. So then did Wilson switch to head shots because the body shots weren’t working, or were they accidental as Brown pitched forward? And yes, how many shots total were fired? Where did the rest, if any, go?
The one thing that appears clear is that he was NOT “shot in the back”.
Judging by the lack of center mass shots, I’d say the head shots might have been lucky(either that or Wilson was trying his damned hardest not to kill the kid). Of course one of the things a witness said was that Brown ended up only feet from Wilson. So at closer range, a head shot becomes easier to pull off.
Seems appropriate now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8
What I didn’t see online yesterday but did see in the paper today (printed yesterday) was that the bullet that went in through the top of his head came out near his right eye. That’s not quite “in the back” but it’s sure as heck not “from in front” either. I’d want to have a report from a careful inspection of the road surface where he was lying before I would be willing to say with confidence what happened there but … there aren’t too many ways to get that wound path, are there?
The article mentioned that the pathologist found no residue on Mike’s skin but hadn’t had his clothes so couldn’t check them. STILL incomplete information.
Someone mentioned this at work today. He sounded quite happy about the whole thing. “Well, that’s one less of them,” I think he said. Something a lot like that, anyway, and something like: “There’ll be some more of them gone too with the rioting.” He brought up the pictures from the shop, so I mentioned the video and the “You gotta pay for that” thing and his reply was:
“We don’t care. He was black.”
That guy’s moving to Florida in a few years. Says he’s getting a full-auto MP5 as soon as he can because he won’t need a licence for that but would need one for a revolver.
He also boasts about speeding, claims to drive safely and encourages car drivers to intimidate cyclists.
Any black cyclists in Florida want his name?
Exit wounds are generally not considered relevant when determining where a person was shot…
Well, not necessarily the exit wound, but the first couple of inches of trajectory beyond the entry wound. Here’s a bullet hitting the top of someone’s head. That one came from low down in front. Mike Brown appears to have been shot in just about the same place on the head, but as the bullet came out near his right eye he was presumably shot there from a rather different angle.
Not necessarily. Skull thickness varies greatly between different persons. A shot to the top may in fact have enough energy to pierce the bone but lack the energy to exit out the rear, and therefore travel along the inside of the cranium until it reaches a point where the bone is thinner, or there is only soft tissue.
Of course if I have a threat coming at me, I’d keep shooting until I’m either out of ammunition, or the threat is on the ground.
I’d expect the ME who did the autopsy to have taken the trajectories into account. He’s supposed to be one of the top experts in the country, and was working for Brown’s family, not the government. Given that I think it’d be extraordinary if he made a finding which contradicted the witness accounts, missing a legitimate back shot in the process.
They’re keeping the choppers out because in other riots the “protestors” have tried to bring them down, and the last thing we need is a big chunk of metal full of fuel dropping from a great height on the neighborhood.
Depends whose side you’re on. I’ve seen “Black Hawk Down”…
From all reports I beleive officer Wilson acted in self-defence.This was a thugh who had just robbed a store and had multiple felonies in his name.
At the same time, the heavy handedness of the police is not okay. You don’t tear gas journalists they should be allowed to report on what is going on and if peopel are protesting peacefully thier rights should be respected.