Comic auto-updated Thursday, then didn’t Friday. I don’t even fucking know anymore.
I have a spot in my heart for paparazzi. Specifically, I wish they would all fucking choke to death on vomit and die. They are leeches, scum of the earth, polluting the world with their horseshit. But they wouldn’t do it if there wasn’t a demand, so I guess I’m just a bitter bastard on this topic.
I may have posted this before, but fuck it, I love this song.
Mick has the right idea. She will be pissed and if she can win that show then he will have a problem trying to run away with all the gunfire raining down on him. Her father will be pissed that she is and we all know that he is ex-IDF.
Run mick, run. You only have a small amount of time before she gets wind of it.
Run as fast as you want, you’ll only die tired.
Maybe he could try hiding in Omar’s favorite dumpster.
Consider it payback for keeping him in the dark? 🙂
I’m guessing that reporter waved a fat little check under Mick’s nose, because I’d like to think he’d otherwise have the sense to STFU. I bet Alex and Heidi both know to keep their freak flags furled in public, so Mick has to learn sooner or later.
Yeah. Alex is gunna be pissed.
And then she’s gunna laugh her ass off over how Mick tries to dig his way out.
In partial rebuttal to the second article, point #5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C29mEJFFIvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dbtBWp_beo
Also: Sectional density on shot pellets is low and their aerodynamics are terrible. Unless, your neighbors are living right next door, the discussion of over-penetration is entirely germane. Likewise, unless your house consists of only two or three rooms, the subject is germane. Bottom line: Small pellet-size at house-ranges will hit like a freight train, but will absolutely represent lower risk to folks in other rooms. Not NO risk, but most certainly lower risk. And lower risk to your neighbors, too. Which matters.
Articles which attempt to dispel myths should not spread mis-information.
He chose his examples rather carefully, didn’t he? He compared 5.56x45mm NATO to shotgun slugs, which is not the same at all as comparing 7.62x51mm NATO to #4 buckshot.
#3 : 18 6.4mm balls with 167J each, sort of like someone emptying three Baby Browning mags into the target in a single blast, but with almost twice as much energy per bullet? That ought to work.
Another site that did a lot on wall penetration is The Box O’ Truth. They do not recommend slugs or birdshot for defensive use against two-legged vermin in the home. Against bears in the mountains, maybe, but not in the home.
http://theboxotruth.com/docs/bot1.htm “Twelve pine boards will not stop a .223 round.”
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot4_2.htm “At the request of my friend Matthew_Q, I brought my Shiloh Sharps .45-70, Long Range Express. It went through 12 boards of sheetrock, busted the water jug really nicely, busted the brick to pieces, and exited the back board… …carrying a brick and half of the back pine board with it, and was last seen headed down range, mad as the dickens.
Moral of this lesson:
Don’t get in any gun fights with buffalo hunters. There ain’t no such thing as cover.”
http://theboxotruth.com/docs/bot14.htm “It turned out that the 5.56 deviated so much from its course after the first wall, that it was almost impossible to hit the other walls to test penetration. So, we built bigger walls. It went through all 4 walls. … I shot a round of Remington #8 Dove Load. But the shot did not even break into the second wall. … ”
If anything, I’d say the “bad” choice is a pistol, because you’re more likely to miss with a weapon you’re only holding in one place. It beats the heck out of a baseball bat, though.
Didn’t actually visit the Box O’ Truth. Shame on me. o.O
Don’t sell a baseball bat short – It’s silent until it connects, is always loaded, and never missfires. Also, can be entirely lethal when swung with determination, and is very maneverable in a house. But if I’m going the ‘blunt instrument’ route, I have a short-handled 3# hammer/sledge that’s much more dangerous.
In rebuttal to the assertion that birdshot is ineffective in penetrating to the vitals, I offer this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97sjv11yesc
4 layers of clothing-weight denim, pork rib (with meat on), and four or five inches of pork shoulder – All completely penetrated (destroyed!) by #8 shot (dove load), but failed to penetrate the wall board immediately behind.
o.O
Yeah, I’m sticking with my small shot.
Conclusions from that video:
1) Nitro Express High-Brass Turkey Load is not a low-recoil load.
2) Pork ribs and pork shoulder take a lot more energy out of birdshot than an interior wall can. (Compare his wall-impeded shot to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHQrZXyMn9Y without the wall)
3) At ten feet, birdshot hits like a big, fat, heavy, soft bullet. (2.6 square inches, according to Brass Fetcher, which is more than 16 times the area of a .45-inch diameter circle.) Shotguns don’t throw pillows.
Ten feet’s awfully close, though. Even from here to the room doorway’s more than that. In a larger home somewhere land doesn’t cost $8 per square foot you could be looking across the room at an armed intruder 20 or 25 feet away. In a particularly awkward situation involving unwanted guests at a garden party, you could be looking at 40 feet. 40 feet is well inside the lethal range of large buckshot ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pIuUrjUIyQ ) and close enough for a shotgun with a choke to put the whole load into one man if you aim for centre of mass. It’s also well within the effective range of even a stubby compact pistol if the pistol shooter’s any good. If you’re using birdshot, somewhere between 10 feet and 20 feet it spreads out and will no longer hit as a mass. Each pellet will then have to make its own hole. They’ll also be losing energy very rapidly, being unable to slipstream behind each other. It’s like the way spread-out penguins would freeze to death more quickly. At 30 feet, are you outgunned by a 9mm? Just a thought.
Another: That’s a hot 12-gauge load. What about a 2.75″ 20-gauge shell? Is birdshot effective from that cartridge? You’re alright with that 3″ 12-gauge load, but what if I want a round my 5’4″, 112lb wife to be able to fire the thing too? I’m not handing her a cannon that’ll knock her over backwards and unfasten her bra. She’s going to be way more effective at preventing harm to herself if she’s holding a 20-gauge with which she’s had a lot of practice (and it’s loaded with #3 buck) than she would be with a 12-gauge brute of a thing she hates and fears.
No more vids this time, though if you look around, there are vids that show what birdshot does to beef at ranges of 5 or so yards. It’s *ugly.* And realistically, house fighting (home defense) distances are going to be 30 feet or less. Even at 15 yards, you’re going to put the majority of the pellets on-target, albeit you’re unlikely to kill. But killing isn’t what you need to do, anyway. You need to stop Mr. Bad Guy from doing bad things, and a torso-full of shot is going to change Mr. Bad Guy’s immediate plans.
If that’s not sufficient, load progressively heavier shot: Bird, #4, 00. Somewhere along that continuum, Mr. Bad Guy is going to have either a Monty Python moment (Run Away!), or an involuntary lie-down. I’m betting on the messy nap, myself.
20-ga, no really appreciable difference at any probable home defense ranges. Either way, Mr. Bad Guy is going to have a very bad day.
As for 12-bores and small people, I’m sorry, but I’m raising a flag on that one. I’ve watched a 85# 5’00” woman rock a 12-bore like a baby (2.75″ 00 buck). If she can do it, it’s not an issue of physical size, but one of technique. I’ll grant that Dawn’s technique was superior (better than mine, if I’m forced to be honest), but that’s teachable.
Oh Mick, thy dumbassery knoweth no bounds.
oh no. oh no no no no no no no. mick…..
i was cringing the moment i saw this comic. i thought he’d be smart enought to abuse the asshole on the phone and move on.
how wrong was i…….
There is that old saying “If you put your foot in your mouth, atleast don´t try and dance.” In Micks case… he´s an international level breakdance master.
He’s a dead man… He can run and hide but you never get away…remember the Israelis setup the special ‘unit’ after Munich? Took 20 years but they got them all…with Micks mouth I give him 1 week tops before hes toast.
And during those 20 years, there was a bit of ” bycatch”, as they say in the fishing industry…
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lillehammer_affair
The Mossad ALLWAYS gets their target- Plus a few innocent bystanders .
I don’t disagree they had ‘collateral’ damage. But they needed to make a point and they did so.
One managed to evade them untill 1994 when they terminated operation due to Oslo peace accords.
most appropriate line from a TV show:
“Remember that sex we were planning to have, ever again?”
I have a spot in my heart for paparazzi. Specifically, I wish they would all fucking choke to death on vomit and die. Theiir own vomit? Well, someone’s vomit. There isn’t a DNA test for vomit…
What about spontaneous combustion and bizzare gardening accidents?
I’m more a fan of ‘misadventures with gravity,’ myself.
Hey You gun lovers will love this one. http://headtrip.keenspot.com/d/20110221.html
ROFL
My dogs are looking at me funny, now. 😛
‘Never give calcium to a gypsy’?
I never had Omar down as a Look Around You fan. Still, ’tis better than risking the Helvetica Scenario.
WELL SPOTTED.
I had no option but to be a fan – here in the UK you grow up with those educational shorts (first series) and magazine-pop-science shows (second).
My DVD copies are not signed at all no ignore it, it’s an optical illusion…
i knew it, mick is a sherry sipping, gossiping old woman and it’s going to bite him in the ass… maybe literally.