I still think that the whole Insane Clown Posse thing is the absolute culmination of a retarded society in pop music.
When they first came out, on the advice of my brother (who knew I liked hip-hop), I checked them out. And I was immediately bored. Wow. So these guys make songs about vilence and silly horror shit, and we’re supposed to take them seriously because they dress like clowns?
So I decided to check out what this whole Juggalo scene was about, back in 1997, and… no. Just no. Fans of this band weren’t intelligent. They weren’t smart. They weren’t interesting. They were literally just idiots who dressed like clowns, called themselves juggalos, and seemed intent on doing retarded things for attention.
I have no respect for juggalos. Not now, not ever. You idiots dressed up like fucking clowns – CLOWNS, for fuck’s sake – because a shitty hip hop act did too.
Morons. I can’t take ’em seriously. Just… morons.
ICP stopped taking themselves seriously when they stopped being Inner City Posse. It’s all kayfabe.
On the ammo thing: not so long ago, if you walked into a shop and asked for 9×19 or .22LR and the clerk said they didn’t have any, the reaction would have been YGTBSM. Now, it’s just a sigh and “OK, let me know.” For two fucking years.
It depends.
Some stores seem to be able to get it, some can get it in quantity. I’ve worked in a small to medium store for the last ~7 months, and in that time I don’t think we have gotten more than 10 cases of 9mm FMJ ammo in (although we’ve gotten plenty of HP ammo in the last 1-3 months). A store about 20-30 minutes north of us that isn’t significantly larger seems to have been getting more than that on a monthly basis for the last 6-18 months. A store about 45 minutes south of us sells *shitloads* of ammo, and in the last two years there has probably only been one 2-4 week period where they didn’t have cases of 9mm for sale (their prices also haven’t been all that crazy; I don’t think I’ve ever seen them go above about 280 per 1000 rounds).
While the prices aren’t always great, the ammo is actually out there if you know where to look.
I can find it in massive quantity – If I’m willing to accept the bulk crap – at 11 to 15 cents a shot. Or if I’m willing to pay 30 cents a shot for more consistent performance. I’ve recently seen (rare) lots as large as 80,000 rounds for sale… Bulk domestic crap. I can consistently get large lots in multiples of 10K rounds if I’m willing to shoot ARMSCOR shit.
It’s frikkin’ weird out there… Cabelas opened an outlet not more than five miles from where I live, and they had an entire shelf row of .22 WMR and .17 HMR… But not a single round of .22LR. Of course, they may have some reasonable standards on what they’ll stock… 😉
Meanwhile; my elderly Woodsman and my Remington 522 eat crappy bulk ammo like candy. I save the better stuff for my much more finicky 22/45.
Kinda seems to me like it’s the paranoid business owner tactic: “Stock up while we’ve got cash!” “Why boss? We’ve got 15 pallets of it!” “FUCK YOU BUY MORE NOW” and then when the market can’t keep up(like at the minute), just keep selling at a steady rate. Buy when you have the $$$, sell later and get steady $$$
Yeah, that, pretty much. Then a bunch of it goes up on the websites for sale at inflated prices, furthering the hysteria.
The whole thing with Faggalos wouldn’t be quite so bad if they didn’t treat as a fucking religion. As in they really believe it’s a religion. These fucksprockets make $cientologists look sane and reasonable by comparison. The do have one redeeming quality though: they make exceptional lulz cows.
You may appreciate this story on reddit then – a tale of Lee Enfields, Juggalos, and corrosive ammo.
http://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/1jcf0u/armslist_woes_a_gunpurchase_thankfully_aborted/
I have listened to ICP since 1994… I don’t know if I would call myself a Juggalo, as I do not dress up in makeup. But I listen to their music (especially when I am really angry) and I have been to 2 concerts.
They have messages in their music about killing drunk bastards who beat their wives/girlfriends and their children. One of the lyrics “don’t beat women, fuck that, I’m above it” always made me wonder how much good is in their message.
Then they revealed that their Joker’s Cards were about bringing people to God………………………………..which I found oddly disturbing.
Not all who listen to ICP are morons… but then again, not all of us take it to that level.
I love your comic immensely and this hasn’t and won’t deter me from it. You have a right to your opinion, just as I do.
JP
.22LR is still in short supply? I’ve got 10K rounds at home.
I think i have about 500 CCIs in the safe. Though i doubt i’ll be going shooting for a few months. The club i joined just got official word that they can actually start building a proper target range a few months ago after battling the local council, Queensland police and Queensland weapons licencing.
Well at least they will have a 50m range done soon with some steel soon after. Doesn’t matter though. I’m pretty sure my Norinco JW15A is hating the ammo i have.
Thats WHY it is in short supply, cuz everyone thinks they need 10k of .22 lr for the “apocalypse”
if i haven’t found any ammo by the time i burn up my 440 round battle pack, noone else has any ammo either, and i won’t need it.
As always, the question is, did Matt buy 10k rounds after the shortage started, or before it? If he bought it before the shortage started, he has not been responsible for the shortage. (If anything, he may have slightly alleviated it, since he probably used some of his stockpile rather than buy overpriced ammo on mostly-bare shelves.)
WHy in the name of cthulhu do you have 10,000 rounds of .22 lr ammunition at home?
For fuck’s sake, man, YOU are the reason none of us can find any. You know, those of us that actually shoot the shit instead of using it as a home decoration solution?
There is no way that I could possibly accumulate 10k round of 22 lr. Because i shoot it. As it was meant to be shot. That’s why you buy it. Not so that you can put it on your shelf and then brag about having a lot of it on the internet.
You do know that ammunition has a shelf life, right?
Really? I’m still loading with 4895 pulldown powder from WWII 30-06.
Hey, in bulk lots, 10K isn’t all that crazy. US$1250 or so… Depending on where you go, and what quality ammo your weapons will swallow. then you don’t need to think about it gain for a long, long time. BIG bulk lots are easy enough to come by, if you’re not too picky about quality.
Meanwhile, I’m still running through the Bonus Ammo finds my wife and I amde whilst clearing out my Closet o’ Weapons – nearly a thousand rounds of mixed .22lr (among other things). It was like an NRA christmas! 😀
Before the scare, 10K of .22 LR is about $400 of ammo. Wasn’t that much. I know I’ve blown more than that in a heavy shooting month on other calibers.
Also, this has been tackled before: I don’t believe you’re right. We’ve fired ammo that is easily 30 years old. No problems.
My Bonus Ammo find was stuff that was at least 15 years old. Sure it’s low quality bulk crap, most of it – But it *started* as low quality bulk crap. Shoots just fine in my less finicky firearms.
And yeah – When my daughter and I go to the range, we can easily shoot through 500 rounds – Doesn’t take too many days like that and you’re buying another 10K.
Just so happens that we’re in a heavy .22lr shooting cycle right now. Next up, is reloading a buncha .44 Mag…
ICP is hip-hop, so honestly, I never cared to begin with. But someone down at Reason magazine has an interest in the little subculture that built up around ICP, and I’ve read the articles. Kinda interesting.
My only voluntary exposure to their music is “Magnets, how do they work?”
Yeah, that encompasses it all.
I must be getting old. I can remember when Insane Clown Posse was a band, not a description of all political candidates.
You haz wins teh Interwebz fer tuhday.
You’re not old – the politicians have just made it so that we can’t have nice things. Like civilized, intelligent debate over social issues. I agree that you won the interwebs today. Your LOLcat award is coming thru ‘teh tubes’ now. ^_^
Funny how noone mentions the complete lack of reloading components, specifically powder.
wanna reload 12 guage? sure, we got powder. .308 win? *sigh* Here, have our one and only pound of the 6th powder you actually wanted. come back in three months when we have another pound of it.
After the 2008 election and its results on supplies, shoulda stocked up in ’10-’11-’12 pre-election.
Primers? Check. Brass? Check. Powder? Check. Nope – no shortages locally.
In VERY limited defense of ICP, their cover of “Lets Go All the Way” is pretty fuckin’ good.
I mean, the video is pants-on-head retarded, but the cover itself is good.
I always wonder, when I see these people at gun shows and stores, if anyone has ever told them, “No, I’m not selling to you. You are obviously too stupid to safely handle firearms.” I’m sure there would be a discrimination suit in there somewhere, though it would mean having someone who is almost certainly very anti-gun push their case for them…
Re: Where is the .22 ammo?
News flash!!!
The value of the US dollar is going down at a rate rather higher than bank interest, and has been for quite a while.
If you’re a member of the 99.9%, without dedicated stock trade software and political muscle to defend investments or make you whole at public expense on bad investments, a sure way to protect the value of any money you may have left at the end of the month… Is to buy items that are non or semi perishable AHEAD in an amount that you will use before expiration date.
In the case of failure of our wonderfully efficient “just in time” inventory scenario, you will also have the option of a nice profit on items that may end up in short supply.
Or you can be magnanimous, and earn the gratitude of your peer group…
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?238798-Need-22-s-for-your-kid&highlight=.22+ammo
Back in the days when I worked retail, anyone asking me to check in back usually set off the “shoplifter” warnings.
Most of the stores I worked in usually had multiple clerks though with always one to watch things.