What is the statute of limitations on uncollected rent? Who decided that he had been paying an incorrect rate for 20 years? If you are unhappy with last year’s rent, don’t renew the lease.
The BLM needs to get their due. Someone should repay them for grass grazed. Scoop up 20 years worth of cow manure and send it to them.
There are court orders going back more than 20 years, that he ignores. He doesn’t even recognize the existence of the Federal government. Kind of makes me wonder why he flies a US flag, since we don’t exist.
For most of the people there, I’m pretty sure it wasn’t about the cows. It was about how our government has been putting the screws to people. It was about how massive the government bureaucracy has gotten, and that BLM was threatening people with death over cows. Seriously snipers for friggin cows? It was the fact that the government threatened with overwhelming force a US citizen, over friggin cows, yet sues a state for enforcing laws(AZ SB1070). It was about people being tired of being pushed around by the bully of the federal government who turns a blind eye to the crimes they deem not worthy.
Seriously, The fed could erect a border fence in the US to keep protesters from cows, and have men armed and ready to fire on US CITIZENS, but tells our border patrol NOT to fire on people throwing large rocks at them(the kind that nearly killed a friend of mine in the border patrol).
It was about a freeloader refusing to pay grazing fees for public lands for more than 20 years, or even acknowledge that the US government even exists. And it was the protestors threatening with guns.
yes, it MUST have been the protestors threatening with guns, because nobody got shot.
Now, when the government threatens people with guns, there’s blood, and plenty of it.
Take with whatever degree of sarcasm makes you feel comfortable.
But that said, maybe you should see what the release paper said that he would have to sign before he could even legally PAY those fees. I did. It was damn ugly.
Except, the Nevada Cattlemans Association doesn’t support him, so claiming ranchers do may not be accurate. And like it or not, the BLM has the power, authority, and RIGHT to make such requirements. It is not Bundy’s land. It never was.
And, supposing you are right, and the Government claims are factual for a change, in what way doe that justify suspension of the Constitution? The Feds were there with snipers and with their “First Amendment Zones” before the protest became anything mor than local. They were arresting people for exercising free speech.
AS to the Cattlemen’s response, no one in the stat would purchase the cattle and no sales barn would handle them. The feds found one in Utah, but the Governor of Utah “requested” that they not cross state lines with them, and the Nevada Ag commissioner referred to the ones the Feds were holding as stolen.
And in a similar case, the Hage case, where the rancher had a lawyer, which Bundy mistakenly has not, the District Court Judge ruled that the BLM and Forest Service had acted in violation of Federal Racketeering Statutes, effectively running the two offices as criminal enterprises, and he ordered that the DOJ file charges. Of course, with the current DOJ, that ain’t happening
Hage doesn’t really apply, as he was in fact paying the fees, and the Bundy case isn’t about water rights. Bundy also has repeatedly stated that the Federal government does not own the land to begin with, that the state does, and that the Federal government does not legally exist. All three are false. Bundy also issued threatening statements and a “call to arms” before and law enforcement showed up.
I find it sad & ironic there’s folks out there looking at the Bundy-BLM thing, and saying “stooped rednecks, standing up with their gunz against the government. The gvt. should release the drones on them!”, while forgetting that they’ve been condemming drone use in the Middle East for years now.
I’ve been following this with some interest; and it reeks of one thing to me: government’s being a fuckhead and doesnt like being slapped down. Good on Mr. Bundy, and I hope the USgov doesnt roll the national guard on him
there is wisdom in this “moooo”, if only you speak chinese.
from the Principia Discordia
ZARATHUD’S ENLIGHTENMENT
Before he became a hermit, Zarathud was a young Priest, and took great delight in making fools of his opponents in front of his followers.
One day Zarathud took his students to a pleasant pasture and there he confronted The Sacred Chao while She was contentedly grazing.
“Tell me, you dumb beast.” demanded the Priest in his commanding voice, “why don’t you do something worthwhile. What is your Purpose in Life, anyway?”
Munching the tasty grass, The Sacred Chao replied “MU”.*
Upon hearing this, absolutely nobody was enlightened. Primarily because nobody could understand Chinese.
What bull. You really should steer clear of this issue.
This seems to me, pretty much, to be J’s way of saying “I’m steering clear of this issue”.
I think you underestimate his veal for controversy.
I disagree. he is clearly outstanding in the field.
Obviously you’re all missing the meat of the story.
Okay, who was fucking with your DNS until a few minutes ago?
Udderly ridiculous-
Don’t have a cow, man.
At least he’s not milking this for all it’s worth!
Must be cows from around the Nevada Nuclear Test Site!
Cows with guns! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQMbXvn2RNI
I feel like if I don’t watch a Cyriak video when it is presented to me, something terrible will happen.
I feel like when I DO watch a Cyriak video, I get to watch something terrible happening to me…
Not to say I don’t appreciate them, but I’ve never gotten to experience LSD, and I feel like it’s a missing puzzle piece.
What is the statute of limitations on uncollected rent? Who decided that he had been paying an incorrect rate for 20 years? If you are unhappy with last year’s rent, don’t renew the lease.
The BLM needs to get their due. Someone should repay them for grass grazed. Scoop up 20 years worth of cow manure and send it to them.
There are court orders going back more than 20 years, that he ignores. He doesn’t even recognize the existence of the Federal government. Kind of makes me wonder why he flies a US flag, since we don’t exist.
Needs more cowbell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ix7jqxXQ2I
Now can we get back to “As The Gunshop Turns”? 😉
“I heard it through the Bovine…”
I believe this. I just know which end the government has its ear to.
For most of the people there, I’m pretty sure it wasn’t about the cows. It was about how our government has been putting the screws to people. It was about how massive the government bureaucracy has gotten, and that BLM was threatening people with death over cows. Seriously snipers for friggin cows? It was the fact that the government threatened with overwhelming force a US citizen, over friggin cows, yet sues a state for enforcing laws(AZ SB1070). It was about people being tired of being pushed around by the bully of the federal government who turns a blind eye to the crimes they deem not worthy.
Seriously, The fed could erect a border fence in the US to keep protesters from cows, and have men armed and ready to fire on US CITIZENS, but tells our border patrol NOT to fire on people throwing large rocks at them(the kind that nearly killed a friend of mine in the border patrol).
It was about a freeloader refusing to pay grazing fees for public lands for more than 20 years, or even acknowledge that the US government even exists. And it was the protestors threatening with guns.
yes, it MUST have been the protestors threatening with guns, because nobody got shot.
Now, when the government threatens people with guns, there’s blood, and plenty of it.
Take with whatever degree of sarcasm makes you feel comfortable.
But that said, maybe you should see what the release paper said that he would have to sign before he could even legally PAY those fees. I did. It was damn ugly.
http://kenmcvay.com/why-the-other-ranchers-support-cliven-bundy-statement-from-kena-lytle-gloeckner-nevada-rancher/
Except, the Nevada Cattlemans Association doesn’t support him, so claiming ranchers do may not be accurate. And like it or not, the BLM has the power, authority, and RIGHT to make such requirements. It is not Bundy’s land. It never was.
And, supposing you are right, and the Government claims are factual for a change, in what way doe that justify suspension of the Constitution? The Feds were there with snipers and with their “First Amendment Zones” before the protest became anything mor than local. They were arresting people for exercising free speech.
AS to the Cattlemen’s response, no one in the stat would purchase the cattle and no sales barn would handle them. The feds found one in Utah, but the Governor of Utah “requested” that they not cross state lines with them, and the Nevada Ag commissioner referred to the ones the Feds were holding as stolen.
And in a similar case, the Hage case, where the rancher had a lawyer, which Bundy mistakenly has not, the District Court Judge ruled that the BLM and Forest Service had acted in violation of Federal Racketeering Statutes, effectively running the two offices as criminal enterprises, and he ordered that the DOJ file charges. Of course, with the current DOJ, that ain’t happening
Hage doesn’t really apply, as he was in fact paying the fees, and the Bundy case isn’t about water rights. Bundy also has repeatedly stated that the Federal government does not own the land to begin with, that the state does, and that the Federal government does not legally exist. All three are false. Bundy also issued threatening statements and a “call to arms” before and law enforcement showed up.
And of course, it would also help if the judgement for Hage hadn’t been overturned.
I though the whole thing was about the $5 billion dollar deal that Harry Ried’s son Rory was involved with and they want the land for the chinese solar company: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/041514-697268-bundy-ranch-harry-reid-rory-reid.htm
That’s cool in a random way, although I know plenty of folks who would have been like nopeNopeNOPE once the spider cows showed up.
I find it sad & ironic there’s folks out there looking at the Bundy-BLM thing, and saying “stooped rednecks, standing up with their gunz against the government. The gvt. should release the drones on them!”, while forgetting that they’ve been condemming drone use in the Middle East for years now.
I’ve been following this with some interest; and it reeks of one thing to me: government’s being a fuckhead and doesnt like being slapped down. Good on Mr. Bundy, and I hope the USgov doesnt roll the national guard on him
Yep, that’s a cow alright.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcSl6R-O5I
there is wisdom in this “moooo”, if only you speak chinese.
from the Principia Discordia
ZARATHUD’S ENLIGHTENMENT
Before he became a hermit, Zarathud was a young Priest, and took great delight in making fools of his opponents in front of his followers.
One day Zarathud took his students to a pleasant pasture and there he confronted The Sacred Chao while She was contentedly grazing.
“Tell me, you dumb beast.” demanded the Priest in his commanding voice, “why don’t you do something worthwhile. What is your Purpose in Life, anyway?”
Munching the tasty grass, The Sacred Chao replied “MU”.*
Upon hearing this, absolutely nobody was enlightened. Primarily because nobody could understand Chinese.
* “MU” is the Chinese ideogram for NO-THING
FNORD, mothafucka.
I see infinite fnords in that statement. you are, indeed, enlightened and must be an erisian pope.
BOVINE REVOLUTION!
Cows with guns (Video)
I haven’t followed the issue at all, but they’re dumb animals to you, they’re a livelihood for a rancher. .
A day without Cyriak is a day without mind-shattering nightmare fuel.
Can’t believe I didn’t see anyone using “What’s your beef?” …
Cowrantulas! Cud you believe it?
dat shits addictive! Wonder how quick I can get bac
Ran out of funny ideas, huh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WFp4kozlOU&feature=kp
The point is moot.