I make no excuses.
As you read this, in all likelihood, I am doing jury duty. This marks the 3rd time I’ve been called up in the last 5 years. I don’t know why they keep calling me, and then dismissing me, but it is what it is.
I have nothing against doing my civic duty. I do it because I believe that if I were the accused, at the defense table, I’d want a jury of intelligent people.
But I also understand jury nullification.
hehe.
“I don’t know why they keep calling me, and then dismissing me… I also understand jury nullification.”
Asked and answered, counselor.
Attorney: Are you stupid, gullible, naive, or easily swayed by poor logic or cheap parlor tricks?
Juror: No sir.
Attorney: Dismissed!
“Nothing is beneath me.”
You must be lonely at night…..
What’s to say something isn’t on top of him…
Impossible.
I have it on good faith that the author of this fine comic would never screw up.
Of course there’s something on top of him. They have cats.
I just had a thought regarding the BHP (i know what i’m about to comment has nothing to do with the comic but bear with me).
I read. Alot. And due to my affinity for firearms and war stories I eventually found books by the author Andy McNabb, who is ex-SAS (claimed, though i haven’t bothered to research it), regarding a fictional ex-sas character who is a “deniable operator”. The one thing that stands out to me is how he carried a Browning Hi Power in several of the books. This is hammer on half cock with the safety off and down the front of his pants (changes in later books to a conventional strong side draw due to demands of a certain situation and it took him alot of training to go for his strong side rather than where it was before) and he did it this way due to various reasons. These were: He was originally trained and saw service in the Falklands (in the SAS) and he was undercover a fair bit and he found that it was easy to conceal in this way with a fanny pack; He found it hard to utilize the “Cocked and Locked” method of carry on the older, issued HPs due to a small safety lever and thus adapted to the half cock; he stayed with this method even when he got newer HPs (with extended or MK3 safeties) because it was his standard way of doing it and he may of needed to go back to an older HP at any point; when he first used them it was always a better option in his eyes (ie quicker) to cock the BHP than to struggle to take off a safety he had problems with(He even notes in one book where he and a partner are getting their gear together that his partner has trouble with the safety on her HP after loading it).
My question is, is his reasoning justified to carry in such a way? I’m mainly asking those who use BHPs or have used them. Most people would say that it is especially unsafe to carry that way but to me it seems to be sound reasoning. This is assuming the firearm is in decent condition.
I’m only asking this here because I don’t really think it is worth joining the “Hipower Talk” forum just for this question. It’s just a question, there is no way I’m going to have a chance to carry a BHP (unless i join the army and somehow i get issued one or I happen to buy one and something like what is happening in the Ukraine happens in Aus) it is purely out of curiosity.
all juries should be composed of cats (snooch excluded) if cats don’t like them they are obviously guilty of something…
For example, they’re probably guilty of “not being a cat person.” And as we all know, that’s a capital offence.
*hisssssssss*
I don’t get the comic. It pains me with great pain to admit it, but..?
I’m shameless about getting out of jury duty, as my last one was a capital crime with prejudice. My new mantra is crazy eyes plus ” if you habitually keep a loaded gun within arm’s reach, everything that happens is premeditated. ”
If that doesn’t work, I hope to get something really mundane, because I am DONE with photos of the dead.
The Comic Joke: it has to do with where the ‘shoulder strap’ attaches to the rifle.
Thanks!
It just pains me.
I get called for jury duty far too often here in LA, sometimes in less than a year. What an absolute waste of my time and taxpayer money. Last time was a week long trial for a push (simple assault.) We returned a Not Guilty verdict because the prosecutor’s (a lil’ blonde hottie with an impressive rack) case was bullshit. The defense attorney was an absolute idiot, and we considered recommending the death penalty for him. The judge was impressed that we returned a verdict so quickly – I told him that we didn’t want to waste any further time. That’s life in the monkey house.
Heh. There was a period in US history where judges advised juries of their power of nullification. Prosecutors absolutely despise anyone who even MENTIONS jury nullification. Or exculpating evidence.
But as Vhyrus has pointed out, from an attorney’s POV, if one can’t do away with the jury, stupid jurors are preferable. Especially when you may be arguing against justice.
Yep, best way to get excused from a jury is to mention nullification in any context at all.
I lucked out, last time. Got dismissed after voir dire, sitting in the jury box with the sci-fi novel I’d been reading during hurry-up-and-wait. Couple of bozos suing each other over an office building partnership gone wrong, with overtones of baseball fan because one bozo was part-owner of a team. And they had two Rubbermaid tubs of legal documents to read into evidence.
I did get selected once, for a carjacking. Then the dude copped a plea to plain-vanilla robbery after we were picked.
I’ve been called twice since I’ve moved to Illinois, I sit around for 3 days while they do initial selections and then get let go. They stopped paying us for even showing up. The judge both times has come down at the last minute to either speak with us directly or send us home completely.
There’s nothing like calling up the county office and saying “I was summonsed for jury duty in [county in one state] but I’m not going to be able to make it.”
The rest of the conversation:
them: “why?”
me: “because I’m working in [another state a thousand miles away and am not sure how long I’ll be gone, but it will be months at least.”
Got to do that twice.
I hope you don’t feel bad that the pun comics are often my favorites.
Also, as far as why Our Host keeps getting summonsed, it’s because he shows up. Dallas County has a really poor rate of people actually showing up, and they basically don’t go after people who blow off their summons, so if you ever actually DO show up, they’ll call you over and over again. I have a coworker who basically gets called every 366 days.
It could be worse. You could get selected for GRAND jury duty. You are basically on call for a year in that case ( in Arizona, anyway ).
My Dad’s plan was to tell the judge that “only the Good Lord can judge a man’s guilt, so no matter what I’m voting ‘innocent'”.
For all those admitting to dodging their duty as a Citizen: You just lost all rights to complain about the justice syatem. Now get the fuck out of my country, you worthless parasites.
They kept calling me for jury duty in Dallas every time I changed something on my license. Only the first time did I actually get to sit on a jury duty. Every other time, once I said I’d been on a jury before, I was never picked. If I’m called for jury duty, I should sit on a jury.
I work for a state LE agency. I get called periodically. I will NEVER get past voir dire. It would be nice if the selection process were fine-grained enough to take that into account, but mostly they just comb voter registration or drivers license lists.
I usually don’t get past the background questions — when they find out your mother was an attorney, and your father a scientist, they can’t burn those challenges fast enough to get you out of there.
An intelligent jury may be our goal, but we don’t select for it…
Last time I was called for jury duty, I had been overseas for a year or so when I got the summons. There was no mail option for “bwah hah hah hah, no fucking way”, so I spent about a half an hour over DNS lines trying to get through to a human at the Court Clerks office with no success. What really boggled my mind is that they sent the summons to an overseas address to begin with.
IIRC, that falls under the SSCRA. All you have to do is return the form, along with a copy of your PCS orders, and possibly (I don’t remember, it’s been years) a notarized letter from your commander or the base legal office. The legal office will be quite familiar with the process.
I have a feeling I’ll get out of jury duty should I ever get called for it. I know all the public defenders.