Dinner With Dad 5
Pay attention! This shit will come up later.
Aside from the comic: I feel like I should apologize a tiny bit for Friday’s post. To give you an idea of why I ranted: I get a fair amount of negative bullshit from people who see that I do a comic about guns, in favor of the 2A, and assume that I must agree with their heavily right-wing ideology. Then they act offended or self-righteous when I disagree with them. Sometimes, you just gotta get up on a soapbox and bitch. I was a bit tipsy and infuriated at a couple people. Then I sobered up and thought about deleting it. Then I decided, fuck da poleece, #YOLO, etc.
So yeah. Won’t happen often. But I felt I needed to set some expectations.
In gun news: Do not click on this link unless you’re ready to fume. This is a webpage made by either a brilliant troll, or (ugh) someone who actually believes this bullshit. Many are arguing that it’s just fake, nobody would be THAT anti-gun, it’s a strawman. Thing is, I know – PERSONALLY KNOW – people who have read this and thought it was a good idea. People who spread the link in support.
Jesus fucking christ.
These people really exist. The page I linked to is NOT a strawman stance. These are people who honestly believe that prohibition of firearms would work in the USA. And you know what? It probably would. It would work to disarm the majority of the law-abiding populace, allowing tyranny and crime to run rampant. Ugh. Just fucking UGH.
One of the most facepalm things i´ve ever read was someone suggesting to ban everything that was originaly made for killing.
Including spears, bow and arrow… She (at least if the name was to go by) finaly started backing of and reconcidered when fishinghooks and knifes came on, and when weapons that started like tools (Nunchuks, tridents and such) got brought up.
At least she was willing to reconcider her stance. More than can be said about a lot of people.
I read the proposed 28th amendment. I would like to say it will never pass, but truly I believe it would. One more “domestic terror” incident and that baby is through! Democrats and Republicans would vote it through. They voted through the Homeland Gestapo, why not this?
Mr. Grant thank you very much for your comics, your insight and your awesome music choices.
Lbx!
I’m English so a lot of this is kinda strange to me… biggest thing here is “WTF?” at Piers Morgan, he has no right campaigning for anything as he lives in England…. mainly gun free…
The way I see it, all cities should have the option for open carry if the statistics truly are as different as they say… Is it not common sense that “Less people die” in open carry areas than “gun controlled” areas? That’s like “Hmm State A seems to be having less crime, than State B… What’s the difference? Maybe we should just copy State A so that we don’t all get killed…”
Sure. Go ahead and change the laws to turn me into a criminal.
I’m a certified gunsmith, a licensed CHL holder and a law-abiding citizen. If you change the laws to turn me into a criminal, I’ll happily become one. I’ll cling tightly to the Constitution as it was before those changes and giggle like a schoolgirl when I clean my “illegal weapons of mass destruction” (does my Enfield qualify? what about my Mauser?).
I have one thing to say to you yanks, this is coming from an Aussie.
DO NOT GO QUIETLY, DO NOT SELL OTHERS OUT.
It happened in ’96 over here, the pistol guys sold out the rifle guys, the rifle guys sold out the shotgun guys and the shotgun guys sold out the pistol guys and vice versa. During the buybacks stories ran riot about family heirlooms (genuine WW1 enfields handed down from father to son where the father had used the rifle in WW1, were crushed due to misinformation) getting destroyed along with genuine pieces of history. Though some guys made money out of it the amount of history that was destroyed will never be replaced.
Don’t give in, else your history may go along with your rights.
Ditto the history of gun control in Britain, and from what I’ve seen, just about everywhere else. At least in Britain, part of the problem was that you had separate pistol-owners, rifle-owners, and shotgun-owners associations and none of them cared about the others. With a single monolithic association (the NRA) you’re at least theoretically in less danger of that.
People often wonder why the NRA opposes bans of all sorts of things that don’t seem to be part of their core mission. “Junk guns” (aka “Saturday Night Specials”, an amazingly racist term if you know where it comes from), “assault weapons,” “cop-killer bullets” (that last one’s obvious if you saw the original legislation). The reason is that they learned from history. You may have NRA members saying “ban assault weapons, it won’t affect our shotguns” but the NRA itself takes a hard-line stance because they’ve seen where that reasoning has gone in other countries. First it’s “assault weapons,” then “high-capacity automatic pistols,” then “sniper rifles,” and right on down the line until the only legal firearm is a break-action shotgun at a designated shooting club. (If you’ve been granted a permit for it, of course.)
Don’t get me wrong–I don’t agree with the NRA on everything. I agree with them on their (more or less) zero-compromise stance on legislation, though. (Especially since they have compromised in the past, and what did it get them? What did it get us?)
>11. Assault rifles, semi-automatic, and automatic weapons, as well as those not fitted with GPS and trigger locking devices will be immediately seized by the government. The owner will be compensated fair market value of the weapon, minus the cost of the seizure operation.
So basically, someone with a semi-automatic .22 rifle would have that rifle seized, and since .22’s aren’t expensive the seizure would probably cost more than the weapon!
This is honestly probably one of the dumbest things I’ve heard. Also, 100 rounds of ammunition a year. So I can only go to the range with 1 fucking gun a year? And for me, that’s barely even an hour at the range.
It’s worse than that. A semi-automatic WEAPON not rifle. If you have a cheapie .22 pistol, or one of those “why bother cleaning it because it’s not even worth the oil” pistols, you get compensated fair market value on that, minus the seizure, so you will be paying for the privilege of them stealing your property.
Let’s ban camera’s too. High Speed shutters, capable of taking more the one picture with the click of a button, paparazzi using them for evil purposes cost us the life of Princess Diana. And all the evil pictures they take of illicit and illegal substances and acts being committed, this is something the founding fathers never anticipated along with the internet and how far out of context the first amendment can be taken on a global scale.
Those 28th ammendment people piss me off, just what I needed on a Monday…
It’s just what Monday had in store for you. Garfield was right, Monday is not a mere day but an ominous entity, bent on spreading pain and suffering.
Next Monday the 13th is in January
The day after Zimmerman was acquitted, Trayvon memorials (consisting of a candle, a bag of Skittles and a can of Arizona tea) started springing up at gun shops here. It wasn’t the owners or customers putting them up, obviously. And it was about as stupid as people putting up memorials for DUI victims at car dealers.
Re comic, the best officer I ever knew in teh air farce was a mustang.
HE WAS AN AIRPLANE?
P-51 YO
Goddamn the P-51 is a sexy aircraft.
“putting up memorials for DUI victims at car dealers”
That is pretty silly, clearly they should have been putting up memorials in front of bottle stores instead.
Treyvon’s Amendment had got to be a troll- The name of the author is “Richard Cabeza”- nickname for Richard is Dick, and cabeza is Spanish for “head”. The troll is named Dick Head.
It’s also a good example of Poe’s Law. A troll that is really on his game will have at least some of the people he is parodying agreeing with every word.
Read the petition signup list for this bullshit, if it isn’t a troll, it’s being treated like one and some of the names are pretty creative.
Good catch. Definitely a troll. “Dick Head,” lawl.
Dammit, now I feel real dumb about that big-ass comment I made at the bottom.
GODDAMMIT THE TROLL SUCCEEDED.
AL QAEDA WINS.
BOMB HAS BEEN PLANTED.
TERRORISTS WIN.
We still have next round, so gimme that AWP. 8)
TWO SQUEAKY.
PEEKING!
BOMB IS DOWN, TWINKIE.
How many more must die?
How about how many more violent thugs who lash out and try to beat someone to death must die? I vote all of them, no matter how good your national PR, race, age, or political affiliation.
Saw this over the weekend. If you click the “Media Inquiries” button, you will see that the name of the guy who is behind the website is Richard Cabeza. Cabeza is the Spanish name for “head”. Make of his name what you will. This is a wonderful troll, nothing more, although some idiots believe it and are pushing for it.
How much you want to bet the people behind that site get really nervous interacting with police (justifiably so, especially if you have a dog), but disarming everyone else still seems like a grand idea.
Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a thing.
Dude, your rant was epic and I enjoyed it. Nothing wrong with letting people know how you feel. I once called my darling daughter “an ignorant slut” when she voted for Obama. We still get along fine. A finely crafted rant is a joy to behold.
I really appreciate people who make things meant for entertainment who don’t give a flying fuck. It is nice.
Plus as far as rants go, it was a pretty solid one.
I assumed troll / satire when I got to the taxing-gun-owners-for-reparations bit. That was where it got past the point I’ve seen some antis actually go.
Video is partially why Gun Control doesn’t work, and more “Piers Morgan is a hack” evidence.
Why CNN took on a reporter who was fired from his own news network in Britain for manufacturing facts is beyond me.
Because CNN doesn’t care abuot accuracy – they care about ratings. As do all major meidia outlets. News isn’t news, it’s entertainment, and big business.
You want actual news, go find Michael Yon,* and his peers.
*Mind you, Yon has opinions, too – But he’s not shy about what’s fact, what’s analysis, and what’s opinion. And he spares no sacred oxen.
No news outlet gives two tugs of a dead dog’s cock about accuracy. It’s all about being first with the info, even if it’s completely wrong.
” gives two tugs of a dead dog’s cock”
Mind if I borrow that?
Indefensible in a court of law. Consider the case of a high-rise condo, where I’m going to posit the likelihood of someone “failing a mental health evaluation” will approach certainty… yet each unit is a separate, private domicle. yeah no.
Is it possible for people to be that stupid these days?
That, and the ‘See what the Racist Terrorists say about…’ thing make the agenda of whoever that is pretty clear.
Yes it is possible for people to be that Stupid…
Look at the Nielsen Ratings for “pick any stupid Reality show”
Do not apologise for your rant, dude. I’ve seen more than one gun-phobe won over once they learned that most gun owners are not in fact hard right-wingers, just the noisy ones are. The noisier the sane gun folks are, the less sane the hard-core antis seem.
There are people who don’t want to have a discussion, and only want to find other people who agree with them and support their ideology. When they find someone who doesn’t agree with them, they feel it is a personal attack on them.
Some of the best discussions I have had are with people who disagree with me, and through rational discourse we better understand each other, and learn to respect the other
It will not happen for 2 good reasons:
The Process is Difficult…damn near impossible for Contentious crap to get through. 2/3’rds Majority of Each the House and Senate AND 2/3’rds Majority of all 50 States Houses and Senates before it can be ratified. In 237 years…only 27 Amendments have gotten ratified by this process. And in 236 years, no one has seen Fit to Amend the Constitution to Remove the 2nd Amendment or the 14th Amendment. Only the 18th Amendment has ever been Repealed via a new Amendment (the 21st.).
How hard Exactly is it to Amend the Constitution? There are 4 outstanding Proposed Amendments that are currently awaiting Approval by the “Several States”….
The First one was proposed September 25, 1789 and the most recent one June 2, 1924
The second reason is more practical….
“My Cold Dead Hands” is usually the response someone get’s when asked what it would take to get them to give up their legally obtained firearms.
Unless whoever the fuck is championing this (I read the ‘amendment’ and left the site for fear of the stupid rubbing off) has the business sense of a torn-up dollar bill, this shit will never pass. Do you have any idea how much money this industry is worth?
Besides which, this is retarded. Every time someone brings up the “The founding fathers didn’t think about new guns” argument they immediately lose. Oh really? They didn’t? Then I guess you shouldn’t have an iPhone, they didn’t expect the mentally retarded to be able to spout bullshit at near the speed of light across the world when they said ‘Freedom of speech’.
Like, for fuck’s sake. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?
They all fucking campaign against Kony, and turn around and say that we don’t need guns to defend ourselves from fuck-faces like him!
GODDAMMIT I AM TOO TIRED TO DEAL WITH THIS SHIT.
FUCK IT I’M GOING TO BED.
#FUCKDAPO-PO
I’ve remarked elsewhere that that website sounds a lot like ‘Hoyt’ on Democratic Underground. He’s pure troglodyte.
Wait a minute–was Butch the *host* or a contestant?
In the original series, a contestant. If you go back to the previous strips, it’s mentioned that Butch was brought back as a host the preceding season.
I think there would be quite a bit of support for repealing the 2nd amendment. I don’t think there would be enough support to either propose the amendment (2/3 of both Senate and House) or to ratify it (3/4 of state legislatures).
But then, prohibition passed, so who knows?
But the “proposed 28th amendment” is just a bunch of crap that would never pass constitutional muster as written.
Fine, go ahead and repeal it. Doesn’t mean they can enforce it (lol Volstead).
If it becomes an Amendment, it is, by definition, ‘Constitutional’. Anathema to the original intent of the Document, but very much legal.
I’m the author of Trayvon’s Amendment, and I’ve written an article today about exactly WHY we need to repeal the Second Amendment:
Tea Party Terrorist Thinks Constitution Gives him the Right to Assassinate Obama
My site is not a troll. It’s common sense implementation of a Constitutional Amendment that will curb gun violence.
First, I give you credit for coming on to a PRO-GUN website and replying. Your site absolutely is a troll. Because you have to be either a troll or monumentally stupid to believe any of that would work. And labeling it “Trayvon’s Amendment” shows you are either a simpleton who did not pay attention to the whole case, or you feel that a person should have no recourse against someone beating their head against the ground.
I believe you hit the nail on that one. With the massive amount of grammatical errors and wanton, baseless, accusations I think the person behind the site is indeed a simpleton with poor reading comprehension and critical thinking skills.
Okay.
As others have pointed out here, Richard Cabeza is a troll’s handle. I have seen a troll claim he used it in order to point out that he was trolling. I will admit I accept the possibility that your mother was tricked into giving it to you by some trollish medical personnel when you were born.
That said, there is nobody named Richard Cabeza in the white pages for the community to which your phone number (on the media inquiries page) connects.
You direct media inquiries to stabagunnut@gmail.com, rather than an email address associated with your domain. That is a troll’s email address.
As has been pointed out to you on your site, the fifth clause of your amendment conflicts with the 14th amendment. Furthermore, unless you get your amendment passed and ratified before the next President is sworn in, your twelfth clause will be null and void, because only President Obama would have the authority to establish the office of Secretary of Firearm Management.
I know this is besides the point but:
>rather than an email address associated with your domain
As someone who runs a webhosting company, 99% of our clients use a third party email site instead of their accounts associated with their domain. Don’t ask me why. That’s just the way it is. Probably just easier that way if they have more than a single site (Our clients average like 3 each) so that all of the emails go to one place.
Mr. Richard Cabeza (or would you prefer the “Dick Head” moniker?), I hereby award you my sincere thanks for actually having the balls to come on a pro-gun website to assert your opinion, as misguided and fallacious as we all believe rightfully it is. I have to say that it is fairly rare to see.
The problem is, much like how bullies will never respect pink “support bully victims” nor any of the proposed anti-bullying laws, criminals and felons rarely respect the law however many, and whatever tools they want to use; guns, knives, explosives, and so on, they will get them. Life experience has taught me this. I sincerely hope you will not have to face the trauma of being attacked, whether at gunpoint, knifepoint or simply being beaten up for your wallet or earthly possessions, and at the same time, I find myself wondering if it’s the only thing that brings people to the reality of the wonderful thing known as “Real life”.
Good luck, hope you’re havin’ a giggle if it’s all a troll act (if it is, the above still applies). And if it’s not, then I have nothing more to say.
Also, your comic is well drawn. I like it (despite not liking the subject matter).
Pssst! Yer knickers are showin’!
Damn but did that site make my day, ain’t laughed that had in years.
I watched your video clip, and have been a reader for a while, I do have some issues with the vid and will outline them. Don’t worry it’s quick and painless.
1) The video actually makes good points and is full of excellent case points in favor of firearms in America. Where it looses it is Alex Jones. Sorry if I’m in the minority on this one, but having that guy on your side is like having Woody Allen be a spokesman for Foster Parenting.
2) And this is the big one: The cases of citizens using guns for defense are great. Seriously, some would say Heroic. However,I think what is wrong is that when you say “Gun Control” everyone gets up in arms (haha) about what this means for the law abiding citizens, but forget that the “criminal element” are getting guns too. Each of these cases involved one or more aggressors who were armed. Those are the weapons that needed to be controlled. Those are where the whole system fails. How are these getting into criminal hands? Are there that many careless gun enthusiasts being robed? No. These weapons are being manufactured and distributed with little to no system of checks and balances in place. Forget looking into collectors, sportsmen, and the like. If you want to keep guns away from criminals start at the factory and follow the trail from there.
See, that was fairly quick. If you or anyone has information or a differing point of view on this I’d love to hear it, but not about Alex Jones, my mind is made up on that guy. 🙂
Oh, I agree that Jones is a fucking froot loop. Problem is finding a good pro-2A video compilation anymore that doesn’t have that barking madman in it.
Colion Noir does damn well.