The Nuge
Boy howdy, this actually happened. Including the bit where he became the legal guardian of a 17 year old girl just so he could fuck her legally. And that’s cool, I mean, who hasn’t done that? Psssh, I’ve done that at least 5 times. I forget the exact number. It’s all good!
I’ve never understood the hard right wing gun crowd’s worship of The Nuge. He’s a ridiculous parody of himself. And they keep putting him on news programs for the politics section. Folks, this is a guy who got famous for playing his shows in a loincloth, singing deep philosophical songs like Wango Tango and Cat Scratch Fever. I’m saying that we didn’t lose a cure for cancer the day The Nuge decided to pursue music instead of medicine. Sure, he plays passable guitar, but why does anyone care what this fucking inbred Southern freak thinks about politics? That’s like asking Pee Wee Herman what he thinks of the socio-economic state of Mongolia. He played years of music shows in a loincloth and suspenders, and then goes on to scream about how gay people are bad.
But fuck it, let’s get some Nuge in here.
He is from Michigan not the south
Nice, you actually used one of his better songs!
And, yeah, the guy is just bent in the head – think something had to happen to him in the late ’70’s – early ’80’s … … …
The right has so few celebrities to put up against the left’s legions. It needs all it can get. Even if they are, um, a bit out there.
Dude. If you will pay me millions I will produce a radio show full of logic and civil cross-party discourse RIGHT NOW. I even have a sexy, soothing radio voice.
Already exists and the standard is set high: http://johnbatchelorshow.com . He makes no apologies about being right of center, but he asks hard questions of everyone. Politeness and civility are the order of the day. Since he’s Philadelphia born and a New York resident, he’s not exactly a gun person, but Mr. Batchelor approaches firearms and surrounding subjects as a curious and positive outsider. Some months back he had a fascinating piece on the economic impact of ObamaScare on the gun marketplace. I commend his show to all my friends regardless of their political inclinations.
“The right has so few celebrities to put up against the left’s legions.”
Considering that “the right” tends to be for intrusive government in the bedroom, no surprise there.
I feel like that’s a non sequitur, unless one is saying that celebrities all have delightfully kinky bedroom lives.
Conversely, celebrities tend to earn a fantastical living, and the left is more likely to annex a greater chunk of their wallet… Are we suggesting it’s no longer “the economy”, but “the morality, stupid”? 😉
Actually, that’s probably my biggest problem with the establishment-wing of the Republican party: They still want to tell everybody what to do/what not to do, and they haven’t gotten the message that we just want them to leave us the hell alone.
As far as I’m concerned, the legitimate role of government is extremely limited, and dictating what may or may not be done between consenting adults on private property is NOT a legitimate role of government.
Yeah, Sandra Fluke demanding that the government force private enterprises to buy The Pill for her and her ilk is in NO WAY an intrusion into the bedroom.
Her “ilk?”
Riddle me this: Do you, you, not your church, not your religion, but you, believe that women should be subservient to men, as noted in both the old, and new, testaments of Christian scriptures?
Full disclosure. I’m a both Bi, and Conservative. I’m not a christian. I’m currently in a happily monogamous relationship with a lovely man. That being said…
Fluke did what she did because she’s a jerk. Specifically, a jerk with a political agenda.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_Fluke
Says it all, really. Knew Georgetown didn’t provide contraceptives in their healthcare plans, but “I decided I was absolutely not willing to compromise the quality of my education in exchange for my health care”. Except of course, she’s going to testify in front of Congress about how horrible those mean jesuits are. And how they should be forced by the government to do so. Also, She’s running for office. That makes her a politician. That’s condemnation enough, right there.
Also, 3,000 a year for -birth control- ? holy shit. I know hookers who don’t go through that many condoms in a year.
That’s $230/month for the pill, with no health insurance. Not exactly a big deal, when it comes to the price of medicines in the USA.
And for the record, I know this comes as a shock, but women take the pill for many more reasons than birth control.
I’m aware that many women take the pill for various valid medical reasons, managing PMS, PCOS, and help in regulating a disfunctional hormonal balance.
Fluke -specified- she was using it for contraception.
To be clear, while I don’t agree with Christian organizations stance on contraception, I feel obligated to defend it. Not because I think the Christians are morally right, but because if they don’t have the right to -their- religious beliefs, I won’t have a right to mine. If the government can dictate that the christians have to do things they find morally repugnant, how long before they’re dictating what morality you and I are personally allowed to have? And before you say “well the government should…”, consider this. Do you -really- want the government to have the -power- to pick and choose what morality is acceptable? What happens when the political pendulum swings the other way, and some rabid conservative christian comes to power? He’ll have access to that same power to define acceptable morality… Never give the government a power you wouldn’t give to your worst enemy…
> Fluke -specified- she was using it for contraception.
It is NONE of her employer’s concern WHAT she is using it for. Period. End of discussion. The argument is patently fucking ridiculous.
> Not because I think the Christians are morally right, but because if they don’t have the right to -their- religious beliefs, I won’t have a right to mine.
Ah, the good old slippery slope argument. Fuck that.
[edit to add]
I keep hearing the retarded-assed argument, even from the non-religious that “Hey now, if Hobby Lobby has a religious issue with paying for people’s BC, they shouldn’t have to.”
No. Fuck that argument. They have NO business even KNOWING what their employees are using their health insurance for. None. I don’t give two shits what the religious argument is – it’s none of their fucking business. If they really wanted to object, they should also audit their employees for what they’re spending their paychecks for. Oh, you bought condoms? You’re fired. Bought an R-rated movie that shows premarital sex? Fired. Bought a book by Dawkins? Fired.
Health insurance is part of your pay at a job. Your employer has ZERO right to information about what you spend YOUR PAY upon. None. Zero. It’s none of their fucking business.
PS, Love your work. Been following you since the FLEM days. Keep it up.
If we kept the issue strictly to birth control, an IUD can be bought and installed for $800. I thought it was expensive, but if your numbers are right, it sounds like it pays itself off well over those 5 years. If “other reasons” are ovarian cysts, horrible headaches, or a number of other things, then it’s not “birth control”, it’s “medicine” and covered much more frequently by insurance.
Also, I was moderately tolerant of Nugent as “progun, annoying, mostly harmless” prior to this. Why? Because I had -no idea- he was doing what you claim he was doing. Assuming it’s true (I don’t see why you would lie, so it probably is.), his behavior is completely unacceptable, and I dearly hope someone takes him to task for it. The big difference between the ‘right’ and the ‘left’ is that the ‘right’ tends to hold people accountable for shit like this, and the ‘left’ doesn’t.
Examples of this double standard include people like woody allen, who is currently fucking his adopted daughter.
What double standard? Well, I don’t hear the -left- giving Allen a hard time.
I don’t give Woody Allen anything, because he’s about as topical as the Carter/Reagan election, these days. I don’t think about him. He hasn’t got anything to do with my life, and his movies suck.
One of his kids was in the news recently, claiming to have been molested by him, and that she couldn’t get anyone to listen, or act on it.
Allen’s topical to the conversation because he’s an entertainer who did the -exact same things- Nugent did.
Don’t care. Seriously. Shit happens. If it’s true, then Allen’s a fucking sack of shit. But I really, positively, don’t care.
Boiled down to “claiming”. I’ve seen both sides of that story.
Yeah, but the left doesn’t have any standards. I have standards. I’d rather not have this schmuck be the face of the right to keep and bear arms.
I find listening to Nugent so much more enjoyable when he lets the guitar do the talking. But I feel that way about a lot of musicians on both sides of the political divide.
Celebrity != Having a Clue.
i can honestly say i don’t know anyone who worships him. he’s a laughingstock within the right-wing crowd, too, as far as i can tell.
Sadly, I have known at least three Texans who think he’s an amazing, smart, intelligent, excellent bastion of conservative ideals. These people will actively defend The Nuge verbally, should you dare to impugne his honor.
I’m willing to cut him a fair amount of slack because of his support for wounded vets.
I like him only because he pisses people off. It’s easy to be moderate and reasonable when the Nuge is around. That’s useful.
When he guested on the Z Rock syndicate back in the early 90s, they had record listeners, too. Disney (the owners) about shit themselves.
Like Aerosmith Uncle(bad touch)Ted’s brand of cock rock never appealed to me but I’d be happy to see their Nugent and raise them a Woody Allen and a Roman Polanski.
He is the crazy right wing singing loon against the 4 or 5 crazy left wing singing loon. So the right likes the odds.
If they never let Al Sharpton near a microphone again, then you can have Ted Nugent. Fair trade, one crazy for another.
Throw in Jessie Jackson and Rosie O’Donnell and you’ve got yourself a deal.
Oh, and Piers Morgan….
I could think of plenty of people on both sides I’d like to make that trade for. To paraphrase Douglas Adams, anyone who wants to be a celebrity should on no account be allowed to do the job.
Replace “celebrity” with “politician” and I agree completely.
I’d toss a Santorum into that deal, just to take em.
Saw him once, in ’99. I did find it amusing that they search people for weapons going into the concert venue, when I’d just brought my niece and her boyfriend from the range. Had to add my knives and carry gun to the pile of shooty goodness that was already occupying the trunk. I did keep my pen-size pepper spray and undetectable Micarta knives, because prepper.
Live, he’s raunchier. I did like “Kiss My Ass”, dedicated to the Clintons / Janet Reno / Sarah Brady: http://youtu.be/C_QIhWP5M-M
Again, the Nuge is a NORTHERNER – Detroit, IIRC. And he’s an asshat I DEARLY wish was not a spokesperson for the right to arms. Having said that, as others have noted, every movement gets its asshats. He’s our particular cross to bear, I guess.
The problem our side has is the media is so completely in the tank in favor of ‘gun control’ that they A) seldom echo the asinine stuff said by THEIR side, B) CONSTANTLY repeat the utterings of idiots like Nugent, and C) ignore the statements of pro-rights celebrities like, for example, Tom Selleck (except when they’re confronted by loons like Rosie O’Donnell). Even when (as you yourself have noted) morons like Nancy Pelosi stand in front of a camera an pontificate on gun control using obviously false and misleading statements, the media repeats it like a mantra.
For our side, the main-stream media (legacy media, whatever you want to call it) is our opposition, and “celebrity” is no advantage.
Yeah, Terrible Ted is from Michigan, and was first in a Detroit band called the Amboy Dukes. Their big hit was “Journey to the Center of the Mind” which actually was a fairly good late 60’s garage rock/psychedelic song. The album cover featured a collection of smoking paraphenalia. Later in the ’80s he had taken a very anti-drug stand, and claimed he had no idea what the songs on that album were about. So, yeah, in my mind he’s just another washed up musician who’s glory days are long behind him. Here’s a link to the cover from the 45: http://images.45cat.com/the-amboy-dukes-usa-journey-to-the-center-of-the-mind-hitton.jpg
But but but he parades around with Confederate flags all the time! How can he possibly be a…. damn yankee?
I grew up in North Carolina, but left 25 years ago. I now live in Wisconsin. I’m frankly amazed at how many vehicles I see around here displaying Confederate flags. (These are on vehicles with WI plates, mind you, so it’s not like they’re just passing through.) I’m often struck with the desire to ask them if they’re aware Wisconsin was a Union state, but I really don’t want to get close enough to these people to talk to them. (Maybe they got lost and can’t find their way back to the south? Dunno.)
I see the same thing in Pennsylvania. Confederate flags on vehicles (almost always lifted pickups) with Pennsylvania plates, and, in many cases, stickers showing pride in being a Pittsburgh-area resident. (“YNZR” and/or “N@” oval stickers, for example.)
Keep in mind what Democratic Strategist James Carville once said about Pennsylvania: “Between Paoli and Penn Hills, Pennsylvania is Alabama without the blacks. They didn’t film The Deer Hunter there for nothing — the state has the second-highest concentration of NRA members, behind Texas”.
Not sure if serious…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damn_Yankees_%28band%29
I SEE WAT U DID THAR
JL, what you need to understand is that Michigan is a late stronghold of the Klan. The last documented tarring and feathering was carried out by the Klan in 1971, against Dr. R. Wiley Brownlee, in Willow Run. I worked at a fast food joint on Woodward Avenue in the 90s, and one of my regulars often wore a pro-Klan shirt. Michigan is one of only 11 states where David Duke got onto the presidential ballot. In the North, the Confederate Battle Flag is often flown as an antigovernment standard, much like the Gadsden flag, by those who don’t really know how the Late Unpleasantness got started.
Nuge is a loon. He had an FM radio talk show in Detroit on a classic/AOR station for a time. He was way too pagan to appeal to the conservatives, and way to fond of guns and hunting to appeal to the left. Most of the Right’s celebrities, like Tom Selleck (another Detroiter), are nowhere near so flamboyant, and nowhere near so far out.
Creedence Clearwater Revival was formed in El Cerrito, California. Not too many bayous in the Bay area for the band members to be born in.
Um, “bent in the head,” remember?
I’d put one up – if I was going into battle. ‘Bout the only battle flag that more clearly states “Resistance = Death” is that black and white one …
Keep in mind hes who we on the left imagine when we say gun nut (seriously I wouldn’t trust him to carry a yoyo)
Because in a no-holds-barred deathmatch between two sides that are completely void of logic and sanity — like any battle between Republicans and Democrats — the crazier side is going to win. And Ted Nugent is as crazy as it gets. This is also the reason why political pundits keep Jesse Ventura around.
Not to mention the ones with the weapons if it turned to that… Again, the Nuge wins.
Jesse Ventura is reasonably sober, as far as argument goes. Did you see his Piers Morgan interview?
I ain’t gonna pass judgement on the guy until nobody will hire the leftists that speak out like they do with the right. I know a lot in Hollywood who are right, but not big enough to stand up. There are more of them than you think. And many of them have the opinion that, “Hey, my job is to entertain, not make political statements. I don’t want to alienate a large portion of my fans.”
Then you have the major outlets who purposely ignore the sane ones. The only ones who get any airtime are the crazies. Mel Gibson, and the Nuge are crazy enough to point at and say “See, the right is bonkers!” Meanwhile Gary Sinese, Adam Baldwin and other more right wing, but not crazy types get no air time at all.
“I ain’t gonna pass judgement on the guy until nobody will hire the leftists that speak out like they do with the right. ”
I’ll pass judgement. The guys is a draft-dodging (literal)shitbird. That right there should tell you what kind of integrity is in the man’s bones.
(the answer is “none”)
Maybe instead of riffing on Ted we should be ripping California State Senator Leland Yee a new one for his hipocracy!
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-leland-yee-gun-lobby-20140327,0,1570592.story#axzz2xEg5mf4m
http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-yee-capitol-20140328,0,2222248.story#axzz2xEg5mf4m
http://www.sfgate.com/file/757/757-complaint_affidavit_14-70421-nc.pdf
I almost did a comic about that fuckbag today, but there’s really no way i can improve on the actual story. It’s too fucking insane already.
Very true, very true.
I believe that the legislation he sponsored was meant to fuel the black market he was part of.
I can improve on it:
Maybe we (read: Pelosi?) need to let the government keep spying on congress: It has the provable highest per-capita ratio of terrorists so far…
Wups, Feinstein, not Pelosi.
>Suspected of gun trafficking
>Wants to “keep guns out of school”
“I, Leeland Yee, vows to respect the Constitution and honor my duties as a Senator by taking away guns from law-abiding citizens and putting them in the hands of gun runners, so that through some odd fucked up logic and a bit of luck, we can say guns ARE the problem!!!”
I also believe it’s worthy of a comic, though.
Ugh, don’t let me get up on my soapbox about Uncle Ted. He makes me every sort of ragey and stabby imaginable, and I’m having enough trouble with my blood pressure as it is.