This one comes from the tales of a family friend who worked in a gun shop.
For the last time, I am tired of hearing this from people I’m discussing such things with: NO, THE COPS ARE UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO TELL YOU THAT THEY’RE COPS. NONE. ZERO. If you’re doing something illegal, and you ask a suspected cop if they’re a cop, THEY ARE FULLY ALLOWED TO LIE ABOUT IT. THIS IS NOT UP FOR DEBATE.
Secondly, contrary to popular belief, Buck & Ball ammo is totally legal in the USA. Hell, I have 25 of such shells hanging in a bandolier in my kitchen. Purchased at Cabela’s. I had to correct a guy at a gun show last year on this, and he looked at me like I was lying. No, it’s legal. It’s perfectly legal, as are so-called “dum-dum” bullets. Fact of the matter is that pretty much any ammunition you can imagine is legal.
Here’s a few other gun myths:
Speaking of fucking MORANS, does anyone else think this is one of the dumbest fucking ideas ever?
About the “Combat City” story: Maybe. maybe not. It looks to me like the reporters did their typical “screw the facts, just sensationalize the hell out of things and make the gun nuts look like morons” schtick.
I’d have to see their safety setup, but if they’re shaking down every customer before they enter the area, and doing their other safety things right, I don’t see much difference between this and Airsoft or Paintball…
I’d say the difference is that they’re using real weapons that have been “temporarily modified” to fire rubber bullets. One fuckup, and someone is gonna die.
It’d be far smarter to have their own arsenal that could be used for the same purpose. Plus they could charge rental fees. CAPITALISM
This isn’t a bad idea, it is a public service. They are getting anyone dumb enough to do this potentially out of the gene pool.
When I read “any ammunition you can imagine” my mind immediately turned to “what’s really awesome and smaller than a gun barrel?” I don’t even own a gun. Should I worry about my brain?
That Orlando gun range thing… are they out of their fucking gourds? There’ll be a news story coming out of that place, oh yes.
Actually, it depends on the state. The fascist fucks in Illinois during their state level gun seizures, targeted a lot of custom ammo for shotguns and passed statutes to prevent future sales and ownership. Much of the “OMG!!!! Obama coming to get your guns BS!!!” is due to these laws that are state only that were passed before Obama was even a Congress Critter.
What I find especially entertaining about the dum-dum bullets thing is that some places won’t let you hunt without expanding bullets. It’s inhuman to the animal to make it suffer more than necessary.
ARGLEBARGLE ARMOR PIERCING ROUNDS ARGLEBARGLE.
I love telling people Black Talons are available again. They look at me like I have six heads. Just because they’re sold under a new branding doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
(Related: pick up Ranger Ts. They’re pretty darned good.)
Actually, your link to the dumbist idea ever has been used by police for some time in order to simulate real world training. Now, granted the normal person may not need to simulate combat in such a way and some idiot will fuck it up at home I am sure.
Is “moran” some kind of inside joke for “moron”? Moran is a perfectly respectable Irish surname.
No disrespect to the Irish: The appropriation of the word is for those who need to get a brain.
Dum dums are actually dangerous to fire due to risk of jacket separation in the bore. Just use commercial hollowpoints or softpoints.
Even AP is legal if not in a handgun. And the M855 is not AP by law.
Fun with legalese!
Even rubber bullets at the wrong angle in the wrong place can kill. I know someone with a plastic airsoft BB lodged in their neck permanently because it’s pressed up against their jugular and the risk of removing it is too high all because they were horsing around with the pistol at close range. Even protective gear doesn’t protect everywhere all the time. Sure it would be a freak accident, but it only takes one and I don’t see the sense in encouraging ordinary (tr: dumb) people to shoot at one another.
“The assault weapons fully cycle”
Are you kidding me? I guarentee nobody is bringing in guns worth as much as my car to have this guy “modify” them. Man, now I’m pissed.
This still makes me cross eyed. Why on earth does anyone go into a gun shop (or any other shop, like certain “glassware” shops) that is watched regularly by the police & DOJ, then ask to buy “black market” anything!? Dude should have been charged a five dollar exit fee and stupid tax just for asking the question. 🙂
And if he paid the five bucks, he should get charged five more 😉
Basically, the article is badly-written. The reporter doesn’t know WTF Simunition training is.
Moron/moran?
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So it’s not pronounced “maroon”?