For those not familiar with the Principles Mick is regarding, there ya go.
This video made me shoot blood out of my eyes, and it should make you do the same.
GHOST GUNS.
THE THREAT IS REAL.
HIDE YO WIFE, HIDE YO KIDS…
This fuckin’ guy… this guy should be ridden out of town on a rail. This is exactly why I left the Democratic party in 2000. Fucking morons. FEAR! THAT’LL GIVE US MORE CONTROL. BOOGA BOOGA.
“Purchase of this gun, online, through the internets…”
He actually says “the internets.”
*headdesk*
“This piece of metal, is the engine… …of a gun. The guns you see right up here… semiautomatic weapons as well as automatic weapons… SNIPER automatic weapons… the engine, the heart to those guns, specifically, is this piece of metal.”
This would be hilarious if he wasn’t making decisions that affect peoples’ lives…
Yeah.
Personally I think that the upper receiver is much more important then the lower, but hey, I’ve just been around guns since I was 5, what would I know compared to a STATE senator from CALIFORNIA.
1) Learn your speech. You sound like a freshman in high school speech class.
2)30 caliber clip? really?
3) Hooray fear mongering.
All in all… WOW, just f**king Wow. This reminds me of the Fox News broadcast I saw yesterday where they “found shells at the scene and believe they were from a 9mm revolver.” Ignorance is far more dangerous than any gun.
Be fair: 9mm revolvers exist:
http://www.taurususa.com/product-details.cfm?id=329&category=Pistol
excuse me… Shell Casings at the scene. sorry… 4:45am brain fart.
As I don’t watch FOX, I haven’t seen this broadcast. Why would it be so strange to find 9 mm casings on a scene? And does 9mm use different rounds for revolvers and semi-autos like the 38?
“9mm” typically refers to 9x19mm Luger/Parabellum/NATO. It is a “rimless” catridge, meaning that the base of the cartridge is not a larger diameter than the case body. Because of how revolvers work, they are not typically found chambered for rimless cartridges (as they often require the use of moon clips). Also, because revolvers typically do not automatically eject shell casings (I’ve seen exactly one home-built monstrosity that did), police are much less likely to find shell casings from revolvers.
TLDR: revolvers typically use rimed cases (.38, .357, .44, .45LC, .454, etc.), and are less likely to leave brass at crime scenes.
TBF, there *are* revos chambered in 9×19 and 45 ACP. However and of course, they’re uncommon and revos don’t generally eject their spent brass, therefore extremely unlikely to be found at the scene of whatever crime they’re supposedly used at.
There are plenty of revolvers that fire automatic cartridges. My EDC is a Charter Arms snubby in 40 S&W (http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/Charter_Pitbull_74020.asp). It’s reliable, carries well and accurate enough for its use-case.
My favorite was the 30 magazine clip.
Reading your speech too closely there bud, I don’t know many people that screw up the pronunciation of the word Ghost twice in a row. I stopped watching when he started talking about Sniper automatic weapons and how that piece of metal is the Engine. Too early to be pissed off that much
You need to NSFW this video, cause it shows a huge BOOB.
Where’s the BOOB? I don’t want to watch the whole bloody thing, just for one boob-flash.
The Boob is the one speaking.
Damn, I thought maybe a Hot Brass Dance or something :-b
I like where your head’s at.
Words cannot describe how happy I am that those words are now immortalized on his wikipedia page, along with a comparison on how his rate of fire analysis is higher than a MG42 and on par with a GAU cannon.
Didn’t we go through *precisely* this scare (tho minus the 3D-printing angle) a couple DECADES ago when Glock Combat Tupperware became popular? The “gun only a terrorist could love” is now carried by most police….
Don’t be silly, of course it is. Regular people can’t be trusted, but cops aren’t regular people!
Aw, dammit, comments are disabled on that vid. Phooey.
Oh, and even better, if you’re not in his district, you can’t contact him. Fuckhead.
Sure you can. Just look up CA Senate District 22 (I think) and search for apartments. Doesn’t need an exact address for the form. It just takes a few minutes longer.
Well, yeah, but I prefer to not be one of those dipshits who provides bad contact info (e.g. me@yourmom.com) to politicritters. It only devalues our opinions even more.
It’s sad how many people are willing to accept someone’s word on things. Whenever someone comes to me with a piece of information, I immediately file it away in a mental box labeled “check this shit out later”.
But… what about all the 2D guns! Those are a serious threat! They can only be detected when viewed from the side! You can’t even look down the barrel to be frightened!
They can deal with that particular threat.
It took me a while to find it, but that’s the flag of the former Republic of Yugoslavia, which ceased to exist in 1990. I don’t know the symbolism of that flag with an AK on it, he probably didn’t either and neither did his teachers, or they’d have said something. Nice of them to check these details before making their decisions.
I wonder whether he’d have had a better reaction from them if it had been an M-16.
Indeed it is, or better said was a yugoslavian flag, it was also used by Serbia and Montenegro till 1992.
As for the weapon itself, it’s a yugoslavian version of AKM named Zastava M70, which was a yugoslavian service rifle and is still in use in many ex-Yugoslavia countries. It’s quite easy to indetify them by their three openings (instead of more common two) in their wooden fore grip. This one is a version with the underfolding stock, named M70AB2.
Wait, if it has a serial number, it can be “detected” by DOJ? How the heck does that work?
He goes off about how ghost guns are 3D printed, and can’t be detected by metal detectors. Then grabs a SBR, apparently built with an 80% lower, and claims that it’s a ghost gun. Umm, that barrel is going to be some type of steel, which a metal detector will pick up.
Details, details! The important thing is getting this important legislation through so that we can ban a couple of more sorts of guns! It’s only the big story that matters. Never mind that the story is not true.
It’s like watching those old anti-marijuana ads. Hilarious!
…Until you realize that they are totally serious and think they are making sense.
*sigh*
It’s a lot easier to just grind the serials off an existing gun, methinks.
“…quite shockily simple,” as he wags an unmilled lower. I wish it only took a drill press to finish an 80% lower. Not that I want to build me one them “ghost guns” what don’t have teh cereal number necessarily, but it just sounds like fun to do the finish work.
I tried to watch the video but I couldn’t deal with that much concentrated stupidity.
I, too, had to stop looking, for reasons that many have stated. However, and this is the one question that’s absolutely driving me mad: How did a moron with such blatantly horrible speaking skills get elected to anything greater than 3rd grade class treasurer?
I had to stop watching also. It’s just too much. He started off talking about a bill to ban outright these “ghost guns”, then started talking about requiring these same guns to have a serial number and the owner to undergo a background check. It made my head spin. Are the guns banned or not? If they’re banned, then they don’t need a serial number. Am I missing something other than anti-gun doublespeak? People like him make me ashamed of and afraid for this entire state.
They will probably be banned very soon: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/01/robert-farago/breaking-ca-modifies-sb808-outlaw-ghost-guns/
My ex-girlfriend wore patchouli a lot. I have to agree with Alex’s point of view here.
I refuse to look at that video without more caffeine. I have a vial here with about 4 grams of anhydrous caffeine; that probably wouldn’t be enough caffeine either.
What self respecting person would wear a cloak made out of hippie skins? I mean, I get making the cloak out the animals or humans you have slain, but hippies?
Seriously. Have you ever tried cleaning a hippie pelt..? o.0
I could only make it 5 minutes.
OH MY GOD HOW DO YOU HAVE A JOB?
The fucking engine? The FUCKING ENGINE!?
I don’t understand. I just DO NOT GET, how people can be so fervent, so ZEALOUS about something and know fucking nothing about it.
I care about guns. I think it is vital to people to have the ability to defend themselves from those who would do them harm, because there ARE those who would do them harm and to assume you can legislate away animal instinct is foolishness and hubris. So you know what I do, wanting to make a difference about how guns are viewed?
I FUCKING LEARN ABOUT THEM! I read, I listen, I do what I can to make myself not sound like a jackass when I talk about something.
Why is that so hard for these people to learn? I mean, you could put me in a room with these imbeciles for 30 minutes with an AR and they could leave understanding how it works. Done. Now they have some idea what they are trying to make illegal.
I am really sorry for soapboxing, I know you have mentioned that you hate it, I just got my jimmies rustled.
The majority of anti-gun people I’ve met hold their positions because of fear, not logic. They can’t learn about guns, because their brains lock up in terror the moment the topic comes up. Unfortunately, many legislators seem to feel this way as well, leading to supporting ideas that are fundamentally wrong.
You can swap out “guns” for “sex education” and get an equally valid statement.
Absolutely true, which is even more terrifying.
His indecent nescience is absolutely appalling!
RE: Burning Man, the episode of Malcolm In The Middle where the family goes is priceless.
That is all.
This.
“What’s wrong? Have none of you ever seen a man sweep his lawn with a broom before?”
I am not going to spend 20 minutes listening to what others have clearly labeled as ignorant blather. I will just do my best to remember always that California’s collective knowledge of guns will increase when California State Sen. Kevin de León dies. Given his career as an ESL instructor and NEA lobbyist, I’m going to guess his degrees are in education, a field where you can get a PhD without learning anything.
From the link you’ve shared, JL, I’d guess that a burn would welcome the arrival of a large troop of Benedictine monks who did nothing but sing Chant, pray the Breviary and Rosary, and share their soup. Though I have to admit, it’s more the Dominicans’ scene.
Yeah, I’m just stirrin up $#!t.
Radical inclusion, radical self-expression. They’d be fine.
That really wouldn’t stir up shit at all, although It might be hard for said monks to be heard over the sound camps.
It’s California. I think anti-gun politicians spawn there, lay their eggs, and wait until the young anti-gun politicians emerge from the LaBrea tar pits.
Luckily, their ignorance is our strength.
I fully expect one day to hear a CA politician call for banning plasma rifles in a 40 megawatt range, as well as requiring background checks for all transactions involving plasma. And then I’ll watch as people get in an uproar when they go to donate blood.
Umm, when they were working on the list of banned items for the CA “assault weapon” law, they DID include plasma rifles in the 40W range. AND the USCMC pulse rifles from Aliens.
Please, for the love of JMB, tell me you’re just being amusingly hyperbolic.
Nope. One of the staffers looking through magazines n catalogs n shit thought those were real guns.
If I’m trying to explain Burners, I use this: Cross a hippie with a survivalist. Then, cross a tree-hugger with a pyromaniac. Take those two, combine, and you have a Burner.
For Burns: You know how, for some people, Halloween is the day the mask comes OFF? As in, “normal” is a costume for them? A Burn is several hundred, to several thousand, people with their masks off.
That is… amazingly accurate. May I steal that?
Feel free! The first part, about “what is a Burner”, came to me about halfway through my first Burn.
The second was when I was trying to explain to a car salesman what I meant by saying that the ’06 Honda Element I was buying from him, would be a great Burner vehicle.
This is a remarkably accurate description.
Why do the gun owners and gun organizations of California not point out all the things wrong with what this guy said right away? Or the NRA? If you let these idiots speak unchallenged their minions will continue to spout their nonsense. Immediate press conferences should be held right after explaining all the things he got wrong. It does nothing to help their cause if they only talk about it in their own websites and magazines because it has been proven that the antis don’t read those anyway and very few of the lay people do either. Serious money should be thrown at fighting this bullshit because other wise it becomes mainstream just like “assault weapon” and “clip” did.
The term ‘Saturday night special’ was coined by people that were afraid of guns. As was ‘assault weapon’ and others. ‘Ghost gun’ is just the latest incorrect scary word. I’m not using it in any serious gun discussions.
He thanked the Brady Campaign for helping out near the end. I watcher it till the Q&A part.
The original phrase was, “Them guns (meaning small and inexpensive) ain’t good for nothin’ but Niggertown on Saturday night.”.
…an incredibly racist statement that makes it impossible for me to keep a straight face when I hear a die-hard far-left liberal say it.
Well, as a german most of my knowledge on this topic is second hand due to the very strict gun laws here, but it somehow strikes me that, even if you can get the gun itself unnoticed through a metal detector you will usually have a hard time declaring a bunch of 9mm rounds as lipgloss.
Exactly. Right there, as somebody without much gun experience but who is willing to engage their brain on the topic, you’ve found the fundamental problem with the recurring “invisible gun” scares.
So are the rounds of ammunition the real ‘engine’? or just the fuel? and is an engine worthless without fuel anyway?
and the 9mm lipgloss comment made me laugh!!
Come on, Congress won’t protect us so he has to!
Sigh.
Be sure to notice the light-colored suit guy (police captain?) in the background.
At 6:58, he actually rolls his eyes at the BS spewing forth from this State Senator.
We didn’t all wear patchouli. Sometimes we wore sandalwood. 😀
:p
Seriously though? Wearing patchouli was for the “elite”/hardcore among us. Most did NOT. That stuff is strong.
I only started wearing it in the late nineties, as an experiment in nostalgia–actually I never liked the patch; I wanted ylang ylang, or frankincense, or my favorite, “amber”.. but you can’t find that anymore (no idea why it’s called that; it smells nothing like amber..but in any case, all of the preceding are much milder than patchouli, and spicy not musty).
Last time I found anything good, it was at a yard sale, in ’88. And they said they got it at the RenFaire.
One time, on my way to work at Summit, I had a drop–ONE DROP–of patchouli on the bottom of one foot, inside my boot.
A guy going by on a motorcycle stopped (I was thumbing for a ride) and asked if I was wearing patchouli. It’s that strong.
After that I quit trying to wear it at all. It wasn’t the same anyway.
Yeah, there’s a lot of different kinds of hippies. (Just like there are a lot of different kinds of geeks.) The hippies Alex is talking about? I refer to them as “hippiecrites.” Sadly, they tend to be the most visible/audible of that bunch.
Dilution is your friend. (I know someone who makes patchouli-based scents; she says she dilutes it like woa before blending. Like, take your one drop and put it in a quart of carrier oil, then use THAT by drops in a blend. I sometimes wear her patchouli-vanilla-sandalwood blend.)
Oh, will everybody quit heaping blame on California’s doormat. Talk about falling for a stereotype.
We have lots of guns here. Lots of them.
If we didn’t, then the gangbangers wouldn’t be..well, gangbangers.
AND, if there were no law-abiding armed citizens, we’d be at the mercy of said widdle gangbangerz.
Neither is true. Hence…
You’ve used this argument a couple of times, and it’s stupid.
“Gosh, you guys shouldn’t have such a stereotypical view of California as a land of extreme gun control! Why, we have PLENTY of illegal guns here! We can go out and get black market, illegal guns any old time, and get arrested for felony firearms trafficking/purchase! Why do you guys keep saying we have a ridiculous amount of gun control?”
Third-generation native son of the Bear State here.
Sorry, but your argument is off-the-mark and irrelevent. California passes bad legislation, it therefore is a bad place. Simply because many people *ignore* the bad legislation does not make it a good place.
“No, if I were a hippie, I’d alreay KNOW.”
As soon as learned that Burning Man was another Victim Disarmament Zone, I lost all curiosity.
Kind of hard to carry, when you’re wandering around naked.
I went looking for that Oleg Volk poster “adequately covered” or whatever it was called and haven’t found it but did find this:
6-year-old more trustworthy on gun safety than Feinstein. Oh dear.
Oh dear indeed. Also note that Feinstein has claimed to be “trained in firearms” and used to carry concealed.
Belt + Holster != clothed.
Issue resolved.
It’s called a sling, dude.
r.e. “Ghost Guns”: Too fucking late, folks: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/01/robert-farago/breaking-ca-modifies-sb808-outlaw-ghost-guns/
Mick isn’t a hippie, he’s “vanilla.”
We call them ‘normals’
Or “normies”, “mundanes”, and more recently, “muggles”.
Guess who is making “Ghost Guns” now? Aero Precision. Should send this and a bottle of Liberal Tears Lube to De Leon!
http://monderno.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Aero-Precision-Ghost.jpg
http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/1_1.jpg
I looked at the Ten Principles. Doesn’t #1 rather conflict with #3?
Not really. You bring gifts. These gifts are not ads, or pimping your wares. Our most recent camp gave away condoms, burgers, sausages, bread, music, and hugs. (And booze and raucous conversation and othersuch.) I did not pimp my comics once, nor my books. If you give a gift, it’s a gift – not a trade, not a barter, and not an advertisement. Sure, the condoms we gave away were Lifestyles brand – but we’re not even slightly affiliated with that company, and we gained nothing from it.
Just saying that #1 says “Anyone may be a part of Burning Man”, and #3 establishes exceptions to “anyone”, eg those who want to carry out “transactions” or “advertising”. I just found it slightly amusing. 🙂
#3 is not really limiting who, it’s limiting behavior. Flo from Progressive Insurance is welcome, but she shouldn’t try to sell insurance while she’s there.
This guy is a fucktard. I actually support gun control, but all fucktards like this do is lessen the cause
That’s who some people are, though. It’s like saying “Women are welcome, but they can’t talk”. 😉